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  • It's been a while since I talked to you on a wiki message conversation. I noticed that you left a comment about seeing the live action Aladdin, but the status update I did of that on DA went away before I could read it. I was hoping you could tell me what you said on that status update right here please? Thank you.

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    • Long time ago you stopped replying on my messages, so I stopped writing. I'm glad you're writing to me.

      I watched Aladdin 2019. Comparing this to original is like comparing 1987 and 2017 versions of Ducktales. Both have flaws and strong points. I like that Jasmine is more complex princess, well intetioned and more independent, she wants to know her people before ruling them instead of escaping from her duties out of boredom. She also has new song Speechless about not being silent and passive, when there are problems. Jafar has backstory, what makes him less bit more sympathetic, but doesn't make him any less the villain. Williams and Smith Genies just have their own styles, I like both of them. Genie gives more details about how the wishes works, he's more sarcastic and still as friendly as in the original. I like Aladdin's dance scene, that was cool. What I dislike is reduction of Iago's role, Dalia and Anders don't add much to the plot. I don't like that many dialogues between Aladdin and royals are so cringy. I miss Jafar turning into giant cobra to fight Aladdin or Jasmine trapped in hourglass (because it looked more dramatic than being paralyzed, not because of her red outfit). I still think the original is better, but the new version also has own charm and is worth watching and it's best to not compare it to the original too much.

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    • I thought the same thing. The Aladdin live action remake isn't great, but it's not bad either. 

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    • I think this is the last time I went to the cinema, I just no longer find joy in the films, I feel I can't find anything new or surprising anymore. However watching live action Aladdin made me consider to watch animated tv series again, I remember the show fondly. What do you think about the show?

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    • I used to watch the show all the time.

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    • I watched episode 2, it was about a bratty prince with ability to change weather depending on his mood. This episode reminded me "Twilight Zone", where also was a bratty little kid with supernatural powers everyone was afarid of him, so obeyed him and tolerated his bratty attitude out of fear.

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    • I didn't know you watched The Twilight Zone.

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    • The Twilight Zone is a series of horror/fantasy stories similar to Goosebumps or Are you afraid of Dark?.

      It seems Disney starts to understand their remakes aren't so good, because they made ramake of "Lady and Tramp" on Disney+, their version of Netflix.

      I read what changes they did to Mulan and I am already disappointed, it's far too different from the original film.

      Some critics and viewers started accusing modern Disney films of feminism, what do you think about it? In Ralph break into internet the princesses acted like they don't need men and don't want men in their lives. In Melificent most females were good and most males were evil. Those are negative examples. A positive example to me was Aladdin remake, where Jasmine fought against outdated law that females have nothing to say and no influence.

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    • I knew about Lady and the Tramp live action being on Disney+. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the Disney live action remakes end up on there instead of being shown in theaters. Also, I get the feeling that in the future many Disney animated TV shows will be on Disney+ instead of on Television. Because of Disney owning so many properties I already predict Disney+ will become a hot streaming service. I assume some people might subscribe to it simply for Marvel and Star Wars. I haven't watched any of the Marvel shows they had on Netflix like Daredevil, but I know that the announcement of Disney+ got the original shows based on Marvel comics on Netflix cancelled. It's similar to how after the fifth season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars it was taken off Cartoon Network, but instead of being cancelled they gave it a new season on Netflix. Because Disney was doing business with Netflix for a while. I know Hulu is going to be a sister streaming service to Disney+, and I heard that any not family friendly movies and shows from what they own will end up on Hulu. I assume that means R rated movies from Fox, and other companies Disney owns. I also saw that some adult oriented animated shows based on Marvel comics will be coming to Hulu. Once there's no Disney and Disney owned content on Netflix I know that could possibly hurt it somewhat, but because Netflix has more original content than any other streaming service I don't think Netflix will get beaten because of Disney+'s existence. Though it is interesting how a number of companies don't stream exclusively with Netflix anymore. Another is DreamWorks. They streamed exclusively with Netflix for years, and many of their animated shows are Netflix originals, but now many DreamWorks animated movies are now on Hulu, and Amazon Prime has a couple of the more recent DreamWorks animated shows.

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    • I also think live action remakes will be in internet instead of cinemas. Disney wants to dominate everywhere and they have enough of connections and resources to compete with Netflix.

      You didn't lose much by not watching Daredevil or other Marvel shows in internet, because tone is incredibly dark and most protagonists are insufferable jerks violent to their allies with trauma as an excuse. On Netflix are many R-rated films and shows, even darker than what we see in cinemas, because Netflix has no censorship.

      Disney+ is still fresh and Netflix has still lot of popular Non-Disney conent, Netflix will still be on top for years.

      I remember what happened with Clone Wars. There were more eps in plans, but with cancellation of the show, whole planned content was put into comics and books. It's bit sad to me that upcoming Clone Wars season won't feature this.

      I don't watch Dreamworks animated series anymore, but it's good to know that Disney still has a worthy opponent.

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    • With DreamWorks animated shows I think it depends. I still have't seen some of the earlier Netflix original DreamWorks cartoons like Turbo Fast, Dawn of the Croods, and The Mr. Peabody and Sherman Show, but I heard they sucked. I really liked Dragons: Race to the Edge, and besides that, most of the better DreamWorks animated shows are the ones not based on their animated films such as Trollhunters and 3Below which I enjoyed both.

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    • I watched the 3 shows and I confirm, they suck because of weak plots and poor humor. I watched the Dragons and enjoyed it, but after episode revealing that Dagur is Heather's long lost brother, I just got bored with the show and stopped watching. In the show I always hated Mildew, because he annoyed me non-stop. I never watched or heard of Trollhunters and 3Below.

      After watching trailer of Pixar's Onward, I think it's an interesting concept, two brothers seeking magic in fantastic world that got similar to real world. I am skeptical about Toy Story 4. TY never failed me, but this time it's a great challenge to keep such high quality.

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    • The rest of the Dragons series is still pretty good, and there's some great episodes in the last couple of seasons, especially with how it ties into the second film. Trollhunters and 3Below are part of thrilogy of series created for DreamWorks by Guillermo del Toro. Trollhunters ended, with 3Below having premiered it's first season last December, and it's second season is on the way. The thirs series in the franchise is going to be called Wizards. All three shows are in the same continuity.

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    • Trollhunters aren't related to Trolls, right? Dreamworks needs better name than "Wizards", because this tile was already used in Ralph Bakshi's animated adult film produced in 1970s.

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    • Trollhunters has nothing to do with the DreamWorks movie Trolls. I know there's a cartoon on Netflix based on the movie called Trolls: The Beat Goes On. I haven't seen it, but I didn't like the movie, and I'm guessing the cartoon isn't any better. Trollhunters is an adventure series that takes place in modern times with trolls, goblins, and magic. The term Trollhunter is given to someone that is chosen by an amulet that makes them the Trollhunter, and that character is the protector of both the magical and human worlds. In the series a human teenager is chosen to be the new Trollhunter in the first episode. 3Below is set in the same universe with the characters from Trollhunters appearing in it, but it's a science fiction series with Aliens.

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    • I recommend them. They're pretty interesting animated shows.

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    • Did you watch Lego movie part 2? I did and I find this better than part 1, because the story is more interesting and more surprising. I also like better moral than "be yourself". The film also doesn't use overused "chosen one".

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    • I did, and I quite liked it. I still prefer the original however. The sequel doesn't have that level of unexpected surprise the first one does, and I still find the underlying theme of the original better which was of a boy fixing his strained relationship with his father which I find to be deeper than a sibling rivalry. I like both films, but I love the first one.

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    • Indeed the strained relationship with father was much better presented than sibling rivalry.

      To me the original was full of overused tropes like evil corrupt businessman, chosen one, idiot hero, etc. Part 2 deconstructs less overused tropes like poor communication. It also is a nice way of showing gender war. I find Rex Dangervest as more interesting antagonist than Lord Business. Business was karma houdini and Dangervest wasn't. I can't decide if Lucy or Emmet is more the main character of the sequel, because on one hand Emmet moves plot forward and on other hand Lucy gets more character development.

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    • Another thing I love about both movies is how they are essentially from the imagination of a child. After I saw this one review of the second movie I never thought about what the person in the review was saying. When you look at the dystopian future type setting that the son has while the younger sister has a more colorful, fun world in her imagination it seems like the filmmakers are taking a jab at the mindset that once you start growing up that you have to put quote on quote "childish" things behind, and start to get into darker, more edgy things. We both know that the trying to hard to be dark and edgy strategy doesn't work, and it's what lead to many failures (Batman v Superman). At one point the person in the review even makes a sarcastic statement regarding this ridiculous mindset that some have of how everything made for a family audience is childish and stupid, and everything made for adults is so sophisticated. Of course, that's not true at all.

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    • Indeed the 2nd film is a satire on growing up. In my own experience, when I became a teen, I was more interested in darker and edgier stuff until I saw films that went too far. In Finn's imagination the post-apocalyptic city is smaller than lego world, because Finn gave lot of blocks to Bianca. All in the post-apocalypic city looks edgier, because Finn is a teenager now.

      Speaking of darker and edgier, Nolan's Batman worked well, but Snyder's work don't. Snyder simply missed the point of comic book characters, because his Batman is no better than criminals and his Superman doesn't represent hope, but cynicism. Also his scripts are very chaotic, they look like failed composition of few films.

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    • Speaking of those films, I was taken a back when I learned that Snyder was lashing out at critics and DC fans who disapproved of his films. Looks like he took a page from George Lucas on not taking criticism properly, but give Lucas this, he never lashed out with swearing at his critics.

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    • I know how important it is to take criticism. Problem is that criticism and insults are sometimes very hard to distinguish. Some who, don't take criticism, anwer that critics miss the point, but it's just refuse to admit own mistakes.

      I saw trailer of Pixar's Onward and it looks interesting to me. Coco is their last original film and it was great, I think this film doesn't need any sequel or tv series. I don't like good films turning into cash cows, because it destroys their original charm.

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    • I know it can usually be easy to distinguish actual criticism from people just being trolls.

      The cash cow is something that can really destroy something. It's why Shrek is now regarded as an absolute joke by many.I still love the original Shrek, but it was sad how this unique animated film was turned into this big corporate monster. I cannot wait for Onward, and while I have still really liked Pixar sequels such as Incredibles 2 and Finding Dory, I was still more impressed by the original Pixar films of this decade like Inside Out and Coco. Inside Out is still my favorite animated movie of the 2010 decade.

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    • Back then I liked Shrek a lot, I find sequel as even better film thanks to animation and more complex story, but Shrek the Third and Forever After are failures, especially Forever After. Now Dreamworks wants to make a reboot, but this is a bad idea in my opinion.

      I watched Finding Dory 2 and I liked the film for the story and how heartwarming it was. This film also proves that antagonists aren't always needed for stories. I watched Incredibles 2, the film was still interesting depsite being similar to the original, focus on Helen, stunning visual effects and more human villain make the film an improvement.

      Onward has interesting concept about 2 elf brothers seeking remaining magic in world where magic gets replaced by modern tech. I also like how the brothers are designed.

      Pixar only failed us both with Cars films, Brave and Monster University, because those films lacked originality and had uninteresting stories and obnoxious characters. Monster University at least has useful moral "you aren't always fit to fulfill your dream, you need to seek further for purpose".

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    • With the exception of the Cars films and Monsters University I don't think Pixar has made sequels meant to be cashgrabs, but while I really liked Finding Dory and Incredibles 2 the only sequels I find to be masterpiece Pixar level are the Toy Story sequels. Which is why I hope Toy Story 4 will also be on that level. With the exception of the How to Train Your Dragon and Kung Fu Panda films most of DreamWorks' films I just see as them milking their franchises. Madagascar, Shrek, and now Trolls and Boss Baby. However, even though Shrek used to be the go to example of an animated film franchise that just goes on more than it should, the franchise that takes the cake in that regard is Ice Age. Also, after the third entries for both of these, I feel Hotel Transylvania and Despicable Me are becoming the next Ice Ages.

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    • You have hope about TY4 and I have fear, because Pixar gave themselves a very hard challenge to make film as good as previous TY films.

      Speaking of Dreamworks, I find 2nd kung fu panda as the best film of the franchise, because it's more serious, more heartwarming and less cliche, also smart and ambitious Shen is more interesting than vengenful Tai Lung and egomaniac Kai. I watched Dragon films and they are probably their best works.

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    • The How to Train Your Dragon films are the best work from DreamWorks, and while I'm glad they aren't milking it, it's sad to see it go since DreamWorks no longer has it's best franchise. Even though Pixar is escaping the sequelitis hole, DreamWorks is not since after Abominable their next three films are all sequels. Trolls: World Tour, The Croods 2, and Boss Baby 2, Why we need sequels to Trolls and the Boss Baby I have no idea.

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    • I agree that Dragon series films and tv show are the best. Kung Fu Panda are good films, but the tv show is mediocore, good animation doesn't make up for cliche predictable plots. Abominable seems like rip off of Small Foot and Missing Link.

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    • The trailer for Abominable doesn't look promising at all. Smallfoot wasn't great, but it was fine, and I quite liked Missing Link.

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    • I watched Puss in Boots film in 2011, not as good as Shrek 1, but much better than Shrek Forever After. However tv show Adventures of Puss in Boots is average and I don't like that in the show Puss is much dumber than in the films.

      Yesterday I tried to taste adult film, John Wick 3. The film is very brutal and dark, because it's about hitman's life in criminal underworld. It's hard to understand criminal's sense of morality or honor code.

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    • Adventures of Puss in Boots was another Netflix DreamWorks series that I heard wasn't very good along with Turbo Fast, Dawn of the Croods, and The Mr. Peabody and Sherman Show. I know that there's a second Kung Fu Panda series on Amazon Prime, but I haven't seen it. There's also a new Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon that's on Amazon Prime. Like I said, in a previous comment, DreamWorks doesn't stream exclusively with Netflix anymore. Two of their most recent animated shows are on Amazon Prime. I haven't talked about how I am also subscribed to Amazon Prime, and that I've checked out some of the animated shows on there as well. I'll probably make a journal entry on DA where I talk about the cartoons I've seen on there, and give my thoughts on them.

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    • Speaking of streaming services, I know that some streaming services we have here like DC Universe aren't in other countries. I heard that the DC Universe original shows like the third season of Young Justice come on Netflix in other countries. Do you have Hulu or Amazon Prime in your country?

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    • Also, I know there are streaming services that are exclusive to other countries that aren't here in the United States. Do you know of any streaming services that are exclusive to Europe?

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    • I don't have them, but I watched Young Justice on kimcartoon.com. So there are other ways.

      I was initially interested in the Titans until I saw Starfire, her ugliness made me dislike her. I'm not against her black skin, but shape of her face.

      I watched Young Justice season 3, this season is very dark, because one prince was exiled for being a metahuman, when he didn't become this by his own choice. The girl named Halo hated her previous life before amnesia that she decided to become a new person. Ravager was exiled from New Genesis Bugs, poor Ravager. Justice League was disbanded, but good that Batman created own secret time to fight crimes. After Mad Hatter brainwashed Shadow Thief, I didn't feel sorry for him, when Shadow Thief sneaked to his prison cell to kill him. I find brainwashing as a special kind of evil.

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    • I'm looking forward to the second half of the third season which is coming out next month.

      Speaking of DC, it's also thanks to DC Universe that I was able to watch the majority of the DC original animated features that come out every year on Blu ray. I've seen almost all of them at this point with some exceptions. I still haven't seen Green Lantern: Emerald Knights, Batman: The Killing Joke, Justice League: Dark, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract, Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, Death of Superman, and Reign of the Supermen. The last two are on DC Universe, but because most of the DC animated features that have come out since 2014 starting with Justice League: War are all in the same continuity I feel it would be better to watch them order. Since I still haven't seen Justice League: Dark, Teen Titans: The Judas Contract, Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay is why I haven't watched Death of Superman and Reign of the Supermen on DC Universe even though I easily could.

      I haven't really liked the majority of the films that are in the shared universe. I know many others are very mixed on them, and because they're based on the New 52 relaunch continuity from the comics is where one of the problems lies. The New 52 was very polarizing, and I know DC eventually abandoned it, and once recreated the continuity in the comics to match more the classic continuity. I know Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox is connected to them, but I prefer to still look at it separately. Here are my personal ten favorites of the DC original animated movies.

      10.Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox


      9. Batman: Year One


      8. Justice League: Gods and Monsters


      7. Justice League: Doom


      6. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies


      5. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns


      4. Green Lantern: First Flight


      3. Superman vs the Elite


      2. Wonder Woman


      1. Batman: Under the Red Hood

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    • I watched all animated films, ok most of them. Films based on New 52 aren't all good, but enjoyable. I liked Justice League vs Teen Titans and Judas Contract. The latter isn't all faithful to the original, but still entertaining to me. Many complained that the titans aren't voiced by their tv actors, but I am more focused on characters than their actors.

      I am glad we both agree that Under the Red Hood is the best of those films. I like the story, characters, emotions and that both sides of conflict had points. Red Hood was also very effective villain.

      Flashpoint Paradox has very interesting alternative universe like Bruce's father becoming the Batman, because his son was killed. The film was very brutal for animation.

      Gods and Monster was interesting to see new versions of heroes, Man Bat becoming Batman, Zod becoming Superman, but I wish character from WW instead of new gods became new WW. The story was full of surprises to me and showed what if justice league didn't have rule "no killing".

      Superman vs Elite made me think if killing criminals is a right solution, both titular sides had points.

      Dark Knight Returns is long, but well written and I liked that Gordon rallied people to cooperate, when electricity is gone. This showed that normal humans don't have to depend on heroes whole time. Bruce struggled as an old man, this was admirable.

      WW 2009 was very good adaptation and I agrue with myself if this or 2017 live action film is better. What do you think?

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    • With Wonder Woman I like them both, but after finally having seen the 2009 animated film I've started leaning more towards that one, but I still think the 2017 live action film is fantastic.

      In the case for The Dark Knight Returns it was split into two parts because the comic it's based on was far too much for a single hour and fifteen minute movie.

      I know Batman: Under the Red Hood is highly regarded. It's usually at number 1 on most people's best DC animated films lists that I've seen or at the very least, in the top 3.

      Aside from my top 10 here are others I also really liked, but I couldn't fit into the list.

      Honrable Mentions

      Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths

      Batman: Assualt on Arkham

      Superman/Batman: Apocalypse

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    • JL Crisis on 2 earths has strandard plot to me, maybe because after watching JL episode "Better World" I think prime world meeting alternate world is nothing original to me. Batman Assualt on Arkham was interesting premiese, nice use of Suicide Squad, well done heist, but 3rd act was predictable, because who would believe that Black Spider would beat Batman? S/B Apocalypse was a simple story, not good compare to older films.

      Maybe it's best to like both WW films in their own ways.

      Suicide Squad Hell to Pay is much better than the infamous 2016 film. This film isn't in New 52 universe, it's a standalone film. This film is as brutal as Flashpoint and has mature content, but still nice to watch.

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    • I told you one of the ones I haven't seen yet is Batman: The Killing Joke, but I know many have split reactions because of the first 30 minutes. I know the first 30 minutes has those really cringy scenes with Batgirl, but I heard that once that's over the rest of the film follows the Killing Joke comic pretty faithfully.

      I also still want to see Green Lantern: Emerald Knights which is the only one of the older DC animated films that came out before the many New 52 inspired ones that started in 2014. I know Emerald Knights is an anthology film, but I heard that it has a main story in addition to the many smaller stories in the film.

      It's sad to me that batman and Harley Quinn was rather meh because it was supposedly set in the DCAU continuity which means it was in the same universe as Batman: The Animated Series and Justice League. Luckily, one of the new films they released this year Justice League vs the Fatal Five was much better. It kind of sucks that they only really used Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and Mr. Terrific from the show, as well as the new Green Lantern. It would have been great to see John Stewart/Green Lantern, Flash, and Martian Manhunter all voiced by their voice actors from the TV series. I'd love to hear Phil LaMarr as Green Lantern again.

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    • I watched the Killing Joke, but I wasn't happy to see it either. The best is to ignore the 1st 30 minutes. The film makers wanted to make a very long prologue, but it looks more like a short story. Whole film wouldn't suffer without it. Batgirl was out of her character and became unlikable. I think Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy sounded like they are just tired of their roles.

      I am not a fan of green lantern, that's why I am not into Emerald Knights.

      I watched Batman and Harley, but I don't like this episode. It looked like fanservice for fans that watched the animated series back in 90s, but now are adults missing their childhood. Plot isn't very good and a lot of problems would be solved much faster, if the characters used their brains more.

      Another film set in DC animated series is Justice League versus Fatal Five, but I was never interested in this. After Batman and Harley failed, I'm not enthusiastic about another film in the old DC animated universe.

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    • Justice League vs the Fatal Five was much better than Batman and Harley Quinn. Being a HUGE fan of the original DCAU it's always a dream for me to see something that revisits it because for many years I was missing the DCAU continuity badly.

      The next DC animated movie is Batman: Hush which is going to be set in the New 52 animated inspired universe even though the Hush story in the comics was made before the New 52 existed, but then again, the Batman and Son story arch that introduced Damian also existed before the New 52. Damian is another element that makes many of the more recent DC animated films not so good because in his first four appearances or so Damian is an insufferable little punk.

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    • I'll try to watch JL vs Fatal Five eventually.

      I wait for Batman Hush since Under the Red Hood aired. Then I thought "they made good film about the Red Hood, so they can do the same with Hush". However 9 years passed and I gave up hope after 5 years. Now I fear I expected too much and can feel disappointed. Somehow I tolerate Damian in the film series, maybe because he gets enough development.

      Batman Beyond is also a part of original DCAU, but what do you think about this show? I think it steals too much from Spider-man and Terry McGinnes killed too many, also there were too dark events that gave me nightmares as a kid.

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    • It's mostly in the first few that Damian gets on my nerves. In Batman: Bad Blood he starts to get better.

      Batman Beyond is a show I've loved for a long time. I honestly thought the show had enough of it's own elements, and didn't exaclty find it to steal from Spider-Man.

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    • I said Batman Beyond steals from Spider-man, because Terry is a student fighting crime and having problems with studying due to this, he jokes like Spider-man, Nelson is an expy of another school bully Flash Thompson, Shriek is Shocker's rip off, the tatooed hunter is an expy of Kraven the Hunter in style and he wants to hunt Batman as much as Kraven wanted to hunt Spider-man, Derek Powers and his son Paxton have same relationship as Wilson and Richard Fisk and they also are corrupt corporate executives.

      However I admit many episodes of Batman Beyond were good due to interesting stories, like the episode about Surgeon upgrading criminals who have his wife as hostage. In fact she was cheating him with the criminal leader and when the surgeon learned this, he tricked the criminal into thinking he will upgrade him, but he killed or crippled him. After all the criminal did he deserved this.

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    • Some of the episodes I love the most include the two part The Call where Terry first joins the Justice League, and the episodes Out of the Past, Earth Mover, and Sentries of the Last Cosmos. While I like Batman Beyond it's probably my least favorite of the DCAU shows. Here's how I personally rank them from best to least best.

      Batman: The Animated Series

      Justice League

      Static Shock

      Superman: The Animated Series

      Batman Beyond

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    • Static Shock was never imported to Poland and I never watched it, but my ranking would be the same. Because of right issues Wonder Woman never had her own solo show, so instead all her content was adapted in Justice League.

      Both Batman and Superman shows were good in their own ways. BM for mature and dark tone, SM for light tone.

      My favorite Superman episode is probably the one, where Clark Kent was declared dead and Superman couldn't use this identity anymore and he had a serious dillema, because he had a serious case to free a framed man sentenced to death.

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    • I never thought about it back then, but it sucks that Wonder Woman never got a solo cartoon in the DCAU back then.

      I agree that The Late Mr. Kent is a great episode. I remember wondering how the episode would end when I first saw it because of how hard it would be for Superman to resume his civilian life. It also sucks how they never really ended Superman the way originally intended because of Kids WB! having this thing of only wanting cartoons with young leads. That's why Superman ended the way it did, and Batman only came back for one more season when the show's look changed. The network cancelled both shows because they felt kids were more interested in shows with young leads hence why Batman Beyond was originally made.

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    • When Green Lantern got solo show in CGI, I expected WW to get her own show, but it didn't happen.

      I am in minority, but I liked that Beware the Batman had less known villains instead, because it wouldn't be anything interesting to see another fight between Batman and the Joker. Katana instead of Robin and Alfred as a strong man and former MI6 agent were cool to me. I like the show for how different it was and I feel the show is underrated. This made me think that viewers don't like changes and are stuck to the old things.

      In Superman I was angry that Lex Luthor always escaped from prison, because evidences got destroyed. So in JL I was happy, when he was finally in prison.

      I started watching live action tv show Flash, I watched first 5 eps and the show is interesting so far.

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    • I watched Green Lantern: The Animated Series when they put it on DC Universe earlier this year. After watching it I was unhappy that it was cancelled after only one season. It, along with Young Justice got cancelled by Cartoon Network at the same time. I still need to watch the live action Flash. I hear both that and the Supergirl shows are pretty good.

      Anyway, if you have any way of accessing the episodes on the internet somewhere I HIGHLY recommedn Static Shock. It's pretty much my favorite teenage superhero cartoon, and Virgil Hawkins/Static is my personal favorite character that Phil LaMarr has ever voiced.

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    • Green Lantern had 2 seasons. 1st with Atrocitus as the main villain and 2nd with Anti-Monitor as the main villain. When I heard that the show and Young Justice were cancelled for Teen Titans Go, I thought it's a joke. Is TTG still aired or is this finally cancelled?

      What do you think of watching tv episodes in tv with speed up? I recently watch 1,5 faster in order to spare time, especially when shows had slow tempo.

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    • To andwer your first question, TTG is still going. It hasn't ended yet. The fact that it's what replaced Young Justice is very infuriating. 

      Anywho, if you're are curious on my thoughts of other DC animated films we still haven't mentioned here are my thoughts on all of them.

      Their first one from back in 2007 Superman: Doomsday isn't the best, but it was decent introduction to these new animated DC films. It has some pretty neat elements in it, but overall, the escalation of the story is rather mixed. The part with Superman fighting Doomsday is awesome, but the second half where we're waiting for Superman to return to fight the clone can be tedious at times. I'm not saying I disliked Superman: Doomsday. Again, I think it's s decent start, but it's not the best.

      Justice League: The New Frontier was a nice watch. I think most of the early DC animated films weren't the best, and it wasn't until Wonder Woman that they truly got good, but this was still nice to see just for it's portrayal of the Golden and Silver age of comics when the Justice League first formed. The classic vibe of old comics is quite neat, and fun to watch.

      Batman: Gotham Knight is a pretty weak one. I think the reason it's not that great is because it was an obligatory film that Warner made the DC animated team to make to promote The Dark Knight, as this film came out the same year as The Dark Knight hence why the shorts stories in this anthology film are set in between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. The major highlight was how it was the first animated DC project where Kevin Conroy returned to voice Batman after Justice League ended two years before. Other than that, it's just a collection of animated short stories where many of them are rather boring.

      All-Star Superman is a pretty interesting one. I've only seen it once, so I want to see it again before I make my final judgments on it. I think it's an interesting idea that explored how Superman would spend his final days before he dies.

      Superman: Unbound is a pretty meh one. It's not bad, but it feels rather standard with nothing too special about it.

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    • At least Young Justice returned in S3.

      Indeed, Superman Doomsday is mediocore. Back in 2007 I enjoyed the film, but times change and so do people.

      Oh, yeah Batman Gotham Knight was more an advertisement of the Dark Knight than an actual film. It's just a collection of short stories.

      All Stars Superman wasn't good to me for most part. I felt like it's a collection of 3 separate stories. The climax was only interesting. I don't like that Hercules and Atlas wanted to fight Superman for Lois like she was an object. The 2 cryptonians were expies of Mala and her boss from animated series of Superman, but their designes were bad and uncreative.

      Superman Unbound was nothing special to me as well.

      I think Green Lantern first flight is much better than the live action version. However the story was pretty standard and it was obvious that Sinterstro turns against his superiors. have generic villains.

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    • I believe you are referring to Green Lantern: First Flight, and I mentioned how it's in my top 10. I see we have different opinions, but that's not a problem.

      Any thoughts on Justice League: The New Frontier. You never said anything about that one.

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    • Problem is I never watched New Frontier, because I saw in trailers that it's just another alien invasion with more cartoonic character designs. I just saw this as a cheap trick thanks to trailers.

      Batman and Superman as public enemies seemed like fanservice more than a film. The story was pretty standard.

      I watched Batman Year One, but that's another origin story of Batman, which I saw dozens of times. After Under the Red Hood it's hard not to compare it to this. Plot isn't spectacular and animation seems poorer.

      JL War and Throne of Atlantis have same problem, they are boring and have generic villains.

      I never watched Batman Gaslight and Batman Ninja, because I don't like such alternate universes.

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    • I mentioned Superman/Batman: Public Enemies and Batman: Year One in my personal top 10, but you didn't say anything about them until just now. The thing with Batman: Year One is that it's a direct adaptation of the comic of the same name. In fact, if you've seen Batman Begins then it will feel similar to you, but the difference is that Batman Begins is only loosely based on the Year One Frank Miller comic, while Batman: Year One is a direct adaptation.

      It looks like you aren't fond of the elseworld concepts if you didn't care to check out Batman: Gotham By Gaslight. I saw that one, and I found it an interesting concept. Also, it was cool to hear Bruce GreenWood as Batman after his great performances of the characters in Under the Red Hood, and in Young Justice.

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    • Only elseworld I liked was gods and monsters, because it was interesting to see less known villains in roles of heroes. This versions of WW was original, when Langstorm as Batman was cool.

      I'll watch Gaslight and New Frontier, then we will talk about them for real.

      I think Bruce Greenwood is good at playing Batman after watching Under the Red Hood. Back in 2010 many complained that Kevin Conroy doesn't voiced Batman, but I think Greenwood was doing good job and those viewers complained too much.

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    • I know many have considered Bruce Greenwood to be a great voice actor to play Batman. He's second only to Kevin Conroy for me.

      I think the only one you haven't told me your thoughts on that I mentioned in an earlier post is Justice League: Doom. What are your thoughts on that one? That's the one where Vandal Savage steals Batman secret plans he has to subdue to League is they ever went rogue.

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    • Ah, yes. I think Justice League Doom is good despite it's simple story, because I felt the heroes are really going to die. It was emotional to see Bruce burried alive or Martian Manhunter on fire or WW almost dying out of exhaustion.

      Vandal's plan after deaths of JL seemed less fitting survival of the fittest and more like Apocalypse. Making himself and his castle immune to the solar flare made him hypocrite in phiosophy of survival of the fittest.

      I wondered how JL will save the Earth from solar flare and it was spectacular.

      I get that Batman was worried the JL might turn rogue and need to be stopped, but like Hal Jordan said he should have secured it better. SM asked why he didn't plan stopping himself, but it's obvious, because if he knew plan, he would work on counter plan.

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    • I just watched Justice League New Frontier. The film has much better story than the 2017 live action film. The film in first half doesn't have central story, but some stories connect into one. Hal Jordan and Martian Manhunter had well incorporated origin stories. They are arguably the main characters. Superman, Diana, Batman and Flash didn't have so much screentime and they first two fell in battle, but survived, when the second two took part in planing how to defeat the Centre. Centre is a generic doomsday villain, but has cool power of reviving dinosaurs and using them as an army. That was spectacular.

      The film was quite mature due to blood, scale of violance and problems like discrimination, divided nation of America, bloody cult. I remember from history war in Korea and how world was divided after this. The film showed how important it is for America to unite, when they have a greater problems than politics. I laughed when Flash was mistaken for communist due to red suit. Superman seemed to be the only sane man, who gave soldiers and heroes insipration to fight together instead of against each other. I liked that human soldiers and heroes fought together.

      Now I understand why you like this film. Thanks for advicing me to watch this.

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    • Cool. It's not one of my absolute favorites of the DC animated movies, but it's still a good one. It's also a nice tame capsule that really makes it feel like you're reading the DC Golden and Silver age comics from the 1950s and 1960s.

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    • I think at this point we've talked about all the DC animated movies that have come out up to this point.

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    • I'll give you my opinion, if I watch Batman Gaslight.

      What do you think, when a villain in DC or Pixar or anything has a bad reason to be villain? For example in Batman TAS were 3 rich men playing criminals out of boredom, I mean Terrible Trio. To me this motive was disappointing. In Pixar's Cars the main antagonist simply had very big ego and wanted to stay race champion, that's why he's forgettable.

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    • Fun fact: Bruce Timm dislikes the episode The Terrible Trio. It can often be pretty dumb when antagonist has a stupid reason. I've really come to like it when stories don't have a villain. It's one of the things I love about both Finding Nemo and Inside Out.

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    • Good to know that fact.

      Actually in Finding Nemo the antagonists are the dentist and his niece, becuase to the fish characters those humans are kidnapper and murderer respectively and they drive the plot forward.

      However in Finding Dory is no antagonist, what makes the film work so good, there the main obstacle are Dory's memory problems. I agree that in Inside Out is no antagonist.

      I find it interesting to write a story without antagonist, because to me it's much harder and different than typical story with antagonist.

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    • In the case of Finding Nemo I don't count the dentist because he actually thought he was helping Nemo. He says how he saw him and thought he was struggling to swim, so he thought he was helping him.

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    • I watched Batman and TMNT, because my other friend ImmatureBoys recommended this. I expected this film to be bad, but it's average. The characters are well designed and drawn, but the story is pretty standard and predictable, I easily anticipate what happens next. What do you think of it?

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    • I haven't seen it yet. 

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    • Here is page with links.

      https://www.kreskowkazone.pl/odcinki-online_batman-vs-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2019_1

      If American versions don't work, then "Napisy" means subtitles. Those version have voices unchanged.

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    • I don't understand such cruelty! And some wonder why humans are called monsters.

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    • Torturing animals for fun has always pinched a nerve with me. being an animal lover is the reason for that, but regardless, this is just nasty.

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    • Killing for fun is evil and wrong, regardless if it's an animal or human. In Poland a 10-year-old girl was killed by a pedophile.

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    • That's horrible. When it's children then that really upsets me.

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    • We got the title for the second Pixar film coming out next year. It's titled Soul, and I cannot wait to see two original ideas from Pixar next year.

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    • Also, even though I cannot wait for next year, most of the other animated movies from 2020 don't look appealing to me so far. We have yet more sequels with another movie in the Despicable Me universe, a sequel to Trolls, a sequel to The Croods, and a third SpongeBob movie. I honestly cannot wait to find out what Disney's animated movie for next year is. There's also an animated Scooby Doo movie called Scoob coming out next year. That one I don't know how to feel about.

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    • I guess Pixar's Soul is another film about accepting death like Coco, but without music.

      I still can live in 2019, because now I wait for Batman Hush on DVD. In 2019 I thought I wait for 9th Star Wars film, but after disappointing 8th film and trailer for 9th film I am not enthusiastic anymore. I feel they give back characters from older films and the dead ones just to save decreasing popularity of the franchise.

      I was never interested in the 4 franchises you said. Scooby doo had tons of animated movies on DVD, after watching most of them I think Scoob will be nothing special.

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    • Hopefully Scoob will be better than those terrible, terrible live action movies. Also, I'm glad Frank Welker will still be voicing Scooby, but why he isn't voicing Fred I have no idea. Fred Jones is the first animated voice role Frank Welker ever did, and he still voices the character today.

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    • I'm glad that you're so enthusiastic about it.

      Hard to believe it, but I never hated Scrappy Doo, as a kid I merely saw him as a small addition. I wasn't bothered by him trying to fight monsters bigger than him. It's repetitive, but so were Fred's traps and Scooby and Shaggy's cowardiness. Those two eat a lot, but it makes sense since they run from monsters a lot.

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    • I saw Toy Story 4, and holy crap, it was freaking amazing. It gets an absolute recommendation from me. I love Pixar.

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    • Sorry for responding now. I didn't see the TY4 yet. Remember, when you wrote fanfic Date of Darkness? Yesterday I published my own fanfic inspired by yours.

      I watched first 30 min of Justice League vs Fatal Five. I like Jessica and Miss Martian in the film, Thomas from future has interesting powers. When he was naked, I laughed, because he should have known this better. I feel like I'm watching 2001 Justice League, but more mature, because there is more blood and more graphic death.

      I watched Death of Superman and Reign of Supermen. Those films combined are in my opinion better than Superman Doomsday.

      In DC Marsians are afraid of fire. I myself am afraid of fire, but they act like it was kryptonite for Superman. It always looked weird to me.

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    • I see. Well, that's one of my fan fictions I didn't have put back since I now don't see it as anything that special. 

      I think Death of Superman and Reign of the Supermen might be the best of the New 52 inspired DC universe animated films. I don't think they're anywhere near as good as the greats like Batman: Under the Red Hood, Wonder Woman, Superman vs the Elite, and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, but they were still good in their own right.

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    • In death plot was predictable because of the title, but visual effects were spectacular and fight scenes were destructive and emotional. Reign has interesting story and it was cool to see 4 versions of SM, Steel was my favorite, because I liked human using tech armor to do SM's job. Second was the Eradicator because of his cool design, I suspected he's SM's emotionless clone, but I was wrong. Cyborg Superman was a hidden villain with relatable motivation, grief over wife's death and blaming a hero due to despair. He was understandable, but I never forgot his evil actions. It was also interesting to see a Cyborg without kryptonite being equal to SM's strength. Superboy was a just for nice breather scenes, but I'm fine with this.

      In Poland TY4 will be released on August. I hope Pixar won't treat TY as cash cow too much, because those films would decline their quality like the Simpsons. I still like TY2 the most, because of how each major character had equal screentime and character development. In TY1 I felt disappointed that other toys than Woody and Buzz didn't have development, I felt like they were wasted. TY3 has more interesting story than TY2, but there are so many characters that they can't have enough screentime. I wonder when Traveler's Tale will release Lego Toy Story video game, they already released Lego Incredibles video game.

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    • No need to worry. Toy Story 4 is freaking amazing, and it's another great entry in the franchise. I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised when you see it. 

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    • I watched YJ eps. SPOILERS Sometimes I have problem with understanding what happens, when too many storylines are in one episode. There are so many characters that I start losing track.

      In 14th episode Guy Gardner was annoying and rude, but he was very helpful and his green emoticon was funny. Poor meta human children captured by Apokolips and used as test subjects, shame the league failed to save them. Fight between the league and the furies was spectacular. Remembering who Barda is, I guess abuses from Goodness and leaving her on mercy of the pain field combined with Superman saving her will slowly lead to turning against the furies. I laughed, when I heard kakash, because its so similar to kakashi, what means scarecrow in Japanese.

      In 15th episode infitration of the Outsiders to Russia was nice, but as foreshadowed they get discovered. I expected Boomerang, Manta and the Gorilla to be Light's mooks, but suicide squad. In the same episode meeting of Metahumans was interesting, it also nicely shown that everyone reacts different on own powers. The teleporting man nicely translated formal language to teenage slang. Livewire looks cool. Windwill is nicely designed and it's easy to feel sorry for her.

      16th episode had interesting plot, the team had fun in amusement park, when Vertigo and his thug kidnapped Perditta. I didn't expect them to be Psiman and Outslaught in disguise. Good the team realized that it was only a distraction so rest of the thugs would kidnap unprotected metahumans. They were stopped. Oh boy, Halo will have lot of explanations for Byron and Tara, I feel sorry for her, she was a poor and mistreated girl desperate to survive. Ravager nicely convienced Cyborg to join the family instead of being alone, good advice.

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    • Happy Independence Day, my friend!!!

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    • Thank you.

      I also was glad that the new episodes of Young Justice have started coming out again. I'm honestly curious of DC Universe will greenlight another season, or if the show will only return just for the one more season like what happened with Samurai Jack. It would be nice to have one more season at least since we are lacking in good superhero cartoons at this time. The only other good one I can think of is the Netflix series Stretch Armstrong and the Flex Fighters. If you haven't seen that one then I highly recommend it. It has Scott Menville (the voice of Robin from Teen Titans) as the main character Stretch, and it's just a nice show that really takes me back to the superhero cartoons I used to love like Static Shock and Teen Titans. I am so thankful for Netflix, and just streaming services in general with the amount of quality shows many of them have.

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    • Speaking of which, there's also an upcoming superhero cartoon coming to Amazon Prime next year called Invincible. It's based on a comic book I never heard of.

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    • If they WB Animation gives 4th season of YJ, then I expect another fascinating and convoluted plot. The last episode title is revealed "Nevermore", what makes me think of Raven. In the show are already Nightwing, Beastboy and Cyborg. Starfire and Raven are only left to appear, so there would be all Titans in the show. I hope we won't wait 14 years on the next season, if it's in plan. We waited 5 years on the 3rd season, so they story is well planned and animation is beautiful.

      I never heard of Stretch Armstrong or Flex Fighters, but if you recommend it, then I'll try to check them

      What do you think of upcoming DC film Birds of Prey? Even McGregor is a strange choice for Black Mask, but he's a good actor. I hope this film will be better than Suicide Squad. Speaking of SS, in 2021 is planned new film about them unrelated to 2016 film, James Gunn will direct it. His films didn't disappoint me, he previously wrote for Marvel, but he left after lot of arguments.

      Toy Story film have tendency to parody scenes from Star Wars, does TY4 also have parody of SW? In TY1 Sid interregotiating Woody is ref to Vader interregotiating Leia. In TY2 Zurg telling Buzz that he's his father much to his horror is ref to Vader telling Luke the same. In TY3 Big Baby tossing Lotso to trash is ref to Vader tossing his emperor.

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    • I have no thoughts on the upcoming Birds of Prey film since I don't know much about it yet. I heard of the Suicide Squad sequel, and the James Gunn will direct it. I know Will Smith wont return for it, and that's upsetting since he was the best thing about that terrible Suicide Squad movie.

      I have to see the film again if there are any Star Wars references. Though, I wouldn't want to spoil anything before you see it. Toy Story 4 was just an incredible film, and I do not wish to spoil it for you.

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    • I watched Young Justice episode First Impression. Oh boy, I never expected Beast Boy to be a competent leader or making such inspiring speech. That episode was like deconstruction and reconstruction of superheroes - they cause damages when saving the world and are vigilantes, so the law threats them like criminals. However real military is powerless against aliens, so they need superheroes whatever they like them or not. That mayor was like expy of Robert Kelly from X-men, I guess he's just Luthor's employee in charge. Terra's subplot goes forward, I hope she ends up as heroine instead of villainess.

      The JL is divided on the League, Batman Incorp, the team and the Outsiders, maybe we'll also have the titans eventually. I speculate this is just a foreshadow of spin off series named after the groups. What do you think?

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    • That spin-off idea would be interesting. It would be neat to see some new shows set in the Young Justice continuity. I'm really having flashbacks to the story arch from the later seasons of Justice League when they had the Cadmus story arch, and the government was plotting against the superheroes. Though, in that show they didn't have Darkseid aiding them, they just had Lex Luthor funding them, and their scientists creating superhumans to fight the League. I'm curious about Terra's story arch, especially since they're incorporating elements from the Judas Contract story. I too would like this incarnation to have a happier ending than what happened in the second season of Teen Titans.

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    • I watched 18th ep of Young Justice. Oh boy, Klarion commited a despicable attrocity. Force fusion of several people is like that infamous horror film human centicide, but good that Zatanna unfused them. Klarion loves chaos, so living in dimension of order is like going to hell for him. New meta-humen join Taos, poor girl with gills, she'll have the biggest trouble to live on surface. It seems Terra starts getting used to the Outsiders and considering staying on their side. This episode can be censored for Arabian fandom, because Halo drank booze and kissed a girl. I am not against same sex relationships, I'm just aware this will be controversial. I felt so sorry for her, when I heard that she has only few months to live. That's very tragic to know when to die.

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    • I too felt bad when I heard she was going to die in only a few months. hopefully they can find some kind of way to cure her. I was quite repulsed by how Klarion was forcing kids to fuse into a large monstrosity. It looks like that girl with gills will have to take refuge in Atlantis, or any facility that the Justice League has access too that has a lot of water.

      San Diego Comic Con is practically here, and I wish I could go, but I wont be attending this year. There's going to be a lot of neat exclusives I'd love to pick up, and James Rolfe (the Angry Video Game Nerd) will be there. It would be so cool to meet him. I don't believe we've ever talked about internet content creators before.

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    • San Diego Comic Con sounds great, indeed too bad you won't be attending. In my life I met 2 famous Polish actors face to face and I felt uneasy. Meeting someone famous in real life is always exciting.

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    • Yes it is. I've been wanting to go to San Deigo Comic Con for years, and I'll try to see if I can go next year. I'm just glad that thanks to the online pre-orders that Neca Toys does I can still get some of the exclusive figures they sell at Comic Con. I've gotten their exclusive Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles figure sets for the last few years now thanks to them doing the online pre-orders for those who can't attend. I'm also hoping Comic Con might have some reveals for upcoming things, like maybe we might get a teaser for the Pixar film Soul coming out next summer, and maybe find out what Disney's animated film for next year is going to be. Also, I know this year will be the last My Little Pony panel since the show is on it's last season. That would have been something nice to attend. Reminds me of back in 2013 when they had the last Futurama panel before the show ended, and they did this really cool event. I got to see a video of it. It was really awesome. 

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    • I know you're not interested in LH anymore, but my status on LH wiki has been restored 3 days ago, now I can edit it again.

      To be honest the show ceased to be interesting to me. Season 3 is infamous for recycling old plots. Still I'm into making fanfics and fanarts.

      What Futurama episode is the creepiest to you? To me it's S3 episode about Roswell, those time travel paradoxes are too much for me. I have mixed feelings about episode about Leela getting second eye. On one hand it shows a good moral and show poor Leela's childhood. On other hand Bender using children from orphanage is very low even for him, also showing a blind man as a jerk was disturbing. Leela had my sympathy for her hard childhood, but she never admitted Fry was correct and told him to shut up just for laughs, what made her less sympathetic. Another disturbing episode to me was the one about Fry brainwashed into thinking he's a robot.

      My favorite Futurama episode is S2 one about underwater city due to interesting plot. I also enjoyed a lot episode about robot revolution, because of even more interesting plot. I also like episode about the last cyclops who turned out to be a shapeshifter, because this ep was full of surprises.

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    • To be honest I don't know why I ever got into the show in the first place. It always had signs of lazy writing, sophomoric humor, and other things I can't stand. My fanfics will still be there for others to read, but I'm certain you noticed you can't comment on them now for whatever reason. The only way to get more feedback for them is to post them on DA. I may or may not write more, but only time will tell. I feel many of my fanfics hold up, and I'm attached to my OC Rodney. I've heard people tell me they wish Rodney was a real character on the show. 

      In terms of Futurama episode Roswell That Ends Well is one of my favorites. I also had a rough time with it originally because of the time travel paradox stuff, but grew to accept it after seeing how hilarious and interesting the story goes in it's direction. The episode The Cyber House Rules is a good episode to me since it was great to see more of Leela's childhood, and we also get a great guest performance from Tom Kenny in the episode. Not one of the best, but still good on it's own.

      I have a list of my 10 favorite episodes on my profile. My absolte favorite Futurama episodes are The Luck of the Fryrish, The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings, The Late Philip J. Fry, Jurassic Bark, The Sting, and The Farnsworth Parabox.

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    • On the start the show had heartwarming bonds between the siblings, what was fascinating to me. Later I looked closely and realized that the writing is lazy. You worked hard on writing Rodney, so no wonder you like him.

      The Luck of the Fryrish showed Fry's backstory and ending was heartwarming and had a nice twist. It's one of my favorite episodes as well. Shame that Yancy didn't know how to show respect for Philip in his face, when he still lived. Ending of Jurassic Bark was heartbreaking. I don't remember rest of the episodes you mentioned, because I watched the show long ago and don't remember everything.

      It may sound strange, but I don't like episodes with Nixon, because I don't like when tv entertainment is used for politics. I get the creator hated Nixon and Republicans, but he doesn't have to show this so strongly. Another reason is as for non-American like me many political jokes are hard to understand.

      July 20 will be a day of 2 things. Death of Chester Benningtion and premiere of Batman Hush. I waited 9 years for this and I hope it's worth it.

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    • The Late Philip J. Fry is the episode where Fry, the Professor, and Bender test out that time machine that can only go forward, and are stuck when Fry was supposed to meet Leela for a dinner date. The Sting is the one where Fry supposedly dies from a space bee, and Leela begins to have dreams about Fry to the point where she doesn't know what's real and what isn't. The Farnsworth Parabox is the one where the Professor makes a box that contains a parallel universe that has alternate versions of the characters, and the key difference between the two realities is that coin flips have opposite outcomes which is why certain things are different in the other dimension.

      I too am awaiting Batman: Hush. I know people have been wanting it to be adapted into one of the animated films since Batman: Under the Red Hood, and I know it's a very big comic book storyline. I think that The Longest Halloween is another people would love to see adapted into one of their animated films.

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    • Ah yes. I wondered how Fry the professor and Bender return to their time, if they can go only forward and keep missing time machine to back to past. The universe ending and starting over was fascinating and finally Fry was just in time for his date with Leela. The writers watched a lot to get so many possible futures. Giraffe as lord of humans was most unexpected.

      Sting was heartbreaking episode, I thought Fry died for real. His ghost visiting Leela in dreams was interesting. Leela had dilema to live with pain of loss in reality or to live in dreamworld. It turned out that nobody died, but Leela was in coma and had those dreams. The ending was so heartwarming, because Fry was near her during her coma for so long. Their hug was one of the sweetest.

      13 issues of the Longest HW would take 2 or 3 movies like Dark Knight Returns, so much happens there.

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    • I really loved all the different future settings the writers came up with for that episode, and I thought the universe ending then starting back up again is a fascinating concept. I honestly think one of the best aspects of Futurama is making a show that is both hilarious, but also deep and very emotional. The show has so many layers that make it stand out from other comedy shows. 

      Also, the many anthology episodes that the show made were always great to watch. Like how The Simpsons has the Treehouse of Horror episodes Futurama had the two Anthology of Interest episodes, Reincarnation and Saturday Morning Fun Pit which were the two anthology episodes that had the characters in different animation styles, and Naturama which was the one where they did an anthology episode in the style of a nature documentary with the three segments focusing on different animals. Really great episodes.

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      Anyway, I REALLY wish I could have attended San Diego Comic Con this year. Wegot the trailer for the Steven Universe movie, and I cannot wait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZsuug-3r_Q&t=1s

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    • Perhaps I'll watch SU the movie. It seems promising and interesting.

      I just watched Batman Hush. SPOILERS

      Not as faithful as I expected, but I enjoyed the film. It was full of surprises and graphic fights. In this film Thomas Elliot is Bruce's real friend and not Hush, this time it's Edward Nygma's new alterego, but I am fine with this. That was an original concept for the original comic and the scenario of the film is well written, so I am ok with Thomas not being Hush. I like how all villains were utilised. Relationship between Selena and Bruce was so heartwarming. She changed for him, but like she pointed out he also needs to change so they would stay together. Relationship requires sacrifaces and changes, that's a valuable lesson. When Batman saw killed Thomas, he thought it was the Joker and he almost killed him in blind rage. Good that Batman got better than this and stopped. This film makes Batman more human character, because he deals with conflicting emotions, he wants to be Bruce more and wants to be happy. Lex Luthor is an unofficial member of the Leauge. Everyone knows what kind of man he is, but like he needs to be respected to stay as an ally. Better the Leaguers don't mistreat him, because he'll backstab them. His frownings already made him look like he feels his truce with the League is fragile.

      I like this film very much, I find it very good as much as Under the Red Hood. I think it was worth waiting 9 years for this and I am very satisfied. Edward Nygma being Hush isn't a bad change for me, as most of the film is very enjoyable. I have nothing to complain about.

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    • I wont be able to check out Batman: Hush until it becomes available to watch on DC Universe, and that wont be until the film is released on Blu-ray here in the United States. I'm looking forward to it.

      I am looking forward to the Steven Universe movie. I really liked the show, and wish I had gotten into it sooner. It's a really great example of how many modern day family cartoons have gotten better. Right now I am hoping that Milo Murphy's Law will continue. There still hasn't been any word on if it will get another season. I hope it does.

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    • I watched19th ep of Young Justice Outsiders. That was full of surprises. Luthor nicely smear campaigned the Outsiders, but the Justice League arranged a counter campaign. However like WW pointed out, the League gets into dark grey area, because they started using manipulation and deception for sake of good face in public. The League starts getting more and more similar to the Light in methods. Halo revealed awful truths to Bryon and Tara, that was shocking and they won't swallow it easily.

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    • Today's new episode really has me anticipating how the rest of the season will go. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season.

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    • This Saturday I go on long vacations, where internet is limited, so I won't be able to watch next episodes soon after they air.

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    • I watched Justice League vs Fatal Five. This was a nice return to old good DCAU. I like how strong female character Jessica was. Poor Jessica had to live with trauma caused by deaths of their friends, but she defeated it. For most of the time I thought Star Boy is just a plot device, explaining person from future, but I was wrong. He sacrifaced himself to stop the sun from explosion. Miss Martian in this version was a nice and cute girl. The story is standard, but the film is still good. Fatal Five had a crazy evil plan, more evil than Vandal Savage's in Justice League Doom. Still I need to admit they cleverly used Jessica to infiltrate prison on Oa and free their empress and the brain gorrila. In the end Legion of Superheroes travelled to 21st century, but shame that Kara (Supergirl) wasn't among them. I still remember she choosed to stay in the 31st century in JL Unlimited and I hoped she would return.

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    • I need to watch it again, but I rather enjoyed Justice League vs the Fatal Five. It was great to return to the DCAU, and if they ever make anymore of these I really hope they bring back more of the characters from the Justice League animated series. I'd love to hear Phil LaMarr ar Green Lantern again.

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    • How hot does it get in your country during the summer?

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    • It goes even to 86 F degrees, so it's very hot. I drink lot of water to stay cool. How is in US?

      Phil LaMarr is very talented voice actor, I can't blame you for wishing to hear him as Green Lantern again.

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    • Where I am in the United States it can get pretty hot since I live in California. It can get to over 100 F. Though, I've heard that in places like Texas and Arizona it's even hotter.

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    • I just watched Batman Gaslight. It was interesting to see Victorian version of Batman. Opening was quite hot with Pamela's performance, but then I realized she's treated like an object by those men. It reminds that women are people, not objects. Poor Pamela killed by Jack the Reaper, then the nun who raised Pamela, Selina and Bruce. I felt sorry for the nun and even for the jerk old lady. She was mean, but didn't deserve such death. In this world technology isn't advanced, so Batman is more like a normal human instead of overpowered human thanks to his gadgets. Victorian era had nice fashion, but this was so brutal and dark. Poor boys forced to be criminals, it was interesting to use Richard Grayson with Jason Todd and Tim Drake as street urchins called Robins. I never suspected Gordon to be Jack the Ripper, I expected Harvey Dent to be him due to his sexist attitude. Oh boy, this Gordon is a monster in human skin. He not only killed all those women, but also abued his won wife and broke her mentally. I felt sorry for Bruce when he was arrested and sentenced to prison. He escaped in old fashioned way, but no wonder it worked in 19th century prison. There was some of fanservice, the best was Selina and Bruce acting as lovers to escape from police. This was interesting film, good, but not great. Every time I see another DC film, I compare it's quality to Batman under the Red Hood.

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    • It was definitely an interesting take on the world of Gotham. One of the most horrific scenes for me is when Hugo Strange is pretty much ripped to shreds by the inmates of Arkham. What did you think of that scene? It was also quite surreal to see Gordon as a bad guy. Especially when you might expect Dent, or even someone like Harvey Bullock.

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    • This scene of Hugo's death was indeed creepy, it gave me thrills. I imagined how would it look from his point of view and I get even more creeped out. This Bullock didn't seem like a bad guy to me, I suspected only Dent. I didn't expect Gordon as a bad guy. This reminded me that his son in original universe James Gordon Jr is a psychopatic serial killer. Hard to believe such things happen.

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    • I only mentioned Bullock because he could be someone many might suspect since in other incarnations he's a crooked officer. He wasn't like that in Batman: The Animated Series, but I know he starts out as a corrupt police officer in the comics. In Batman: The Animated Series he can be a slob, and even kind of hard to like, but he's an honest officer. 

      If they ever adapt The Long Halloween I hope they make it a standalone film like the majority of the DC animated films before 2014. Though, I do know that story is a long one, and it would be better if they split into multiple parts like they did with The Dark Knight Returns.

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    • Hey, I returned from long vacations. There I had limited internet, so I missed 2 YJ eps. However I watched them after my return. In first, oh boy, this ep had very strong message about how important family is. Halo found her real family and how she speak with her mom and cousin was so sad. Victor couldn't forgive his dad Silas, but when he was dying he couldn't hold grudge any longer, so good they finally fixed their relationship. I felt sorry for Harper, she and her brother are abused by their dad and she feared asking for help would make her worse. The girl turned into Atlantean had to adjust to Atlantis as she could live there only, she found her new family. The creator of Mother Boxes was creepy and showed that humans are like nothing to him, some viewers can interpret it as allegory to deities in religions looking down on humans.

      2nd episode showed more how the heroes got greyer and greyer in morality. Nightwing and Black Lightning were breaking into Granny Goodness' house, so they are technically criminals. Way she punished them was horrific, after all she's a personification of child abuse. Now Garfield doesn't have to pretend anything in front of her, but the conflict begins to get into climax. Bumblebee indeed had the weirdest child birth ever. I knew Terra is a mole, but who would suspect the doctor? The situation gets darker and darker.

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    • The last two episodes of Young Justice were really good ones. I was glad to finally hear Phil LaMarr in a Season 3 episode with the first one. I was upset that he hadn't done any voice work in the current season until then when he was a recurring voice actor on the show in the last two seasons. It looks like the plot continues to get more and more suspenseful, and it really has me anticipated for the climax this season. 

      So, how was your vacation? I've also been on vacation from work, but just here at home.

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    • I and my dad travelled to a small town known from resorts. We were there 2 weeks. However we didn't use the resorts, I was just taking long walks there. After 2 days walking in same places gets boring, especially in small town, where nothing happens. Half of houses and shops there were abandoned, there is no industry. Interesting was only, when uncle and aunt came to visit us for one day. I don't remember those vacations well due to boredom and hot weather. Now I'm home, where I feel better.

      Sorry for complaining, but those vacations didn't go well.

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    • I see. If half the houses and shops were abandoned then I assume it gives the town a creepy ghost town feel doesn't it? Speaking of creepy, I'm not much for horror, but I have been thinking about maybe seeing that new horror movie Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark since I used to read the books all the time back in the day. From what I saw they made the monsters look close to the illustrations form the books. 

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    • Not really. It makes me feel like people simply stopped caring for those buildings and left them to their fate. Many have broken windows and are covered by wooden boards.

      I am also not into horror. I heard about this film, I saw trailer. It had so dark picture that I barely could see what's happening there. If you have black background and very dark grey monster, you can hardly see anything clear.

      Have you watched Batman Hush? If you have, then what do you think about it?

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    • I see. I was just asking since I know a town with abandoned buildings like that is something that can look creepy. I actually haven't seen the trailers for Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark. If I used to read the books it would seem weird, but since I can get creeped out easily, and due to the fact that I'm home alone right now with my family away on a trip watching a trailer to a horror movie seems like the last thing I should do right now. I'm still afraid of the dark, and being home alone would only make that feeling worse. My fear of the dark isn't really that bad at this point, as I've been sleeping fine for the most part these last few weeks, but if I see something that will freak me out that will only give me a relapse.

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    • I also am afraid of dark, but more precisely I'm afraid that in dark I don't know what can happen to me. I don't want to see any horror movies, I don't like them since I was a kid. If we are talking about fears already, then since I was a kid I am afraid of birds. Their beaks always were creepy to me.

      Fear isn't a bad thing, it's a feeling warning us from danger. Fear is a survival instinct.

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    • I also am not afraid to admit fear. Fear is a natural thing, and we all have it. You should be ashamed of it.

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    • You think I should be ashamed of my fear for birds? I am, because I still didn't overcome this phobia. At least I am brave enough to admit it.

      I am not fond to horror movies, because in most of them are groups of people who make stupid mistakes like spliting up and not cooperating, so they let monsters of demons kill them all. In most cases villains win, because heroes are stupid.

      However I watched few horror films and I enjoyed them like 2017 version of IT based on Steven King's novel. King is a respected, but also controversial writer.

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    • Some horror films can have interesting ideas. I also have the same problem with many modern horror movies with how the main characters are often stupid, and just flat out unlikable. Many of them are done to where you can't stand or just feel indifferent to the characters, and you just sit there waiting for them to get killed. That's not good because if they set up a character to be an unlikable jerk character that you just wait for to die that removes a lot of investment you can have in the film, as well as remove any tension. Also, relying on blood and gruesome imagery is not a good way to do horror. A lot of good scares come from suspense and atmosphere, not from constant exploitive images. It's annoying how in many horror films they can't seem to make characters we actually care about, when they used to that well in older ones.

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    • I watched Young Justice ep Antisocial pathologies, oh boy the episode was very edgy and emotional like the title. I felt sad, when I heard this all. Deathstroke manipulated Tara by his harsh training and talking bad about her family. Bryon was manipulated by Doctor Jace from the start and it was painful to hear this harsh truth. Poor Violet now is Darkseid's mindless tool. In the end it seemed to me like the Light members no longer believe Apokolips is trustworthy, because now Darkseid has power to remove free will and he won't spare the Light from absolute enslavement. It's like the Light will have to ally with the League and other hero factions to stop Apokolips. The heroes also don't have better, Batman his apprentices manipulated all post-league factions and colored many situations. Batman became too dark grey in his methods. Black Lightning was sick of those secrets and being treated like a puppet, so he quit. I fear Tara now trusts only Deathstroke and Bryon will be forced to fight her. I hope there will be no sibling murder, because this will be too much.

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    • The episode was quite a watch. Everyone getting mad over secrets and lies really lets you know that it's getting very serious. This was hard especially with how Nightwing had a really bad condition that he was healing from when Black Lightning started noticing how the other heroes were all plotting this. Even Beast Boy was getting upset over all the secrets. It's going to be really hard when they find out how Tara has been a spy for Deathstroke the whole time. I know Bryon in particular wont take it well at all.

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    • Do you know difference between plot twist and deus ex machina? All I know is that plot twists are carefully foreshadowed earlier in story, when deus ex machina happens out of blue.

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    • Yes I know. I also finally saw Batman: Hush. It was good.

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    • I'm glad you enjoyed Batman Hush, I also enjoyed it.

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    • I didn't think of this until I finished watching Batman: Hush, but quite a few of the Batman rogues are dead in this New 52 inspired animated film universe. Ra's al Ghul died in Son of Batman, Mad Hatter died in Batman: Bad Blood, and Riddler died in Batman: Hush, and supposedly Scarecrow did too. 

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    • I didn't notice this. Also Two Face and Professor Pig were killed in Suicide Squad Pay to hell.

      I watched remakes of Aladdin and Lion King and I think they are well made. I don't like Toy Story 4 very much, because of how much status quo changed.

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    • Really? I loved Toy Story 4. I didn't mind that change since I think it's a metaphor for moving on with your life at a later stage of growing up. The story is as deep and as great as the first three movies, and it's just as heartwarming with great characters like a lot of the great Pixar films.

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    • There are jokes that Pixar's Onward is called that, because Pixar moves onward by doing original films now instead of next remakes. So far the film in trailer looks promising.

      Some viewers complain about design of one of the elf brothers, they say it's just blue Linguini from Ratatoile. I looked closer and indeed they look similar. However the film is already far developped, so they need to swallow this similarity and find enjoyment in rest of the film.

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    • Some people will find dumb stuff like that to complain about that doesn't even matter. That's what happens when our society has become far too nitpicky. I am highly anticipating Onward, as well as Pixar's second film next year Soul.

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    • I watched YJ episode Terminus, oh boy, one of the darkest episodes. Vandal Savage gave the Outsiders and the team informations about Violet's coordinates and they teleported there only to fall into trap. It was so terryfying to see all heroes under mind control. 3 episodes left and I wonder how will this end.

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    • With many of the strongest members of the Justice League under mind control it's hard to imagine how the heroes will end up winning this fight. I cannot wait to see how the season will end.

      Also, there's an inside look video on the upcoming Harley Quinn cartoon that will come out on DC Universe this October. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4lo_cglB-o&feature=youtu.be

      I'm honestly not sure what to really think of this, but I'll still give it a watch.

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    • I hope it won't end like the Light saves the world, leaving the heroes discredited. I wish season 4 doesn't have aliens as main villains anymore, I rather stick to Earth.

      This cartoon doesn't look good to me, the character designs look weird and I am not sure if I like such black comedy.

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    • I don't know how I'll end up feeling about Harley Quinn until after I watch it. Though, I am getting a bit tired of all the original shows on DC Universe being mature audiences only shows. It would be nice if they made some original shows that can be watched by everyone, and not just made for one demographic. Making content for a more general audience is something that can help boost interest in your content since it doesn't alienate any particular demographic, and can appeal to everyone.

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    • Who do you think is smarter between Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor? They both run corporations in various industry fields like science, medicine, security, military, etc. They both personally design and produce gadgets, armors and battle vehicles. However I think Lex is smarter than Bruce, because he's more active in his inventins, he constantly gains more experience more often than Bruce.

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    • I would have to agree with that since Lex also makes much more complex devices than Bruce does, but at the same time Bruce refuses to make the type of weapons that Lex Luthor would make. We know Bruce would never make any form of gun type weapon, death machines, or destructive robots.

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    • Bruce doesn't kill, but he still makes weapons that don't kill. For example in Return of the Dark Knight he constructed a tank with guns that shoot rubber bullets. Weapons don't always serve to kill, sometimes only to disable targets or make them unconcious like tasers or sleep darts.

      In 90s animated Batman the creators avoided deaths because of censorship, but some characters suffered in very disturbing ways. For example the Joker's gas made his victim permanently smile and laugh, some viewers said this was even scarier than death. I know some villains deserved their fates, but it's still disturbing. Don't you agree? As a kid I had nightmares after this.

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    • Very good picture for 20th aniversary of this underrated animated film. https://www.deviantart.com/botshow/art/Iron-Giant-Robot-C4D-Substance-Painter-811076318

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    • I watched Young Justice S3E24. This episode was a very good relief after previous extremally edgy episode. Victor Stone and Violet were awesome. Beastboy fighting Gretchen look bit strange, but I like how she was defeated. Her fusion with Granny was disturbing. Connor told about info from Vandal Savage, because he was cocky and sure of victory. However now Darkseid will prepare his fleet to invade Earth, so both heroes and villains will have to work together against the Apokolips. Temporary Apokolips is out of play, but Lex's engineered heroes became more popular than the Outsiders, so the finale of S3 is going to be heated.

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    • I just finished the last three episodes, but it looks like you only saw the first of the three remaining episodes, so I wont really say much to not spoil anything for you. 

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    • Adorable furballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQo1AmiRbW8 This video isn't cute, but has awesome visual effects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXcSLI58-h8

      I watched whole S3 of YJ. It ended completelly not as I expected. I didn't expect Brion to defect the Outsiders to murder Bedlam and become king of Markovia. He crossed the line, but I still feel sorry for him, because he experienced trauma more than once and became a murderer and betrayed his companions and family and became a pawn of the Light. On other hand Gregor didn't do much to help him. The Light actually won by giving the heroes this illusion of victory. Their alliance with Apokolips still continues and it seems to be far from over. The League is now united again, but how long their ideals will keep them having the Light in check. S3 was most complex, most surprising and most emotional of the series.

      I can wait a year or 2 for 4th seasons, may there be explored League of the assassins, where is Jason Todd and Damian Wayne as personal struggles for Batman Inc. S1 introduced Nightwing, S2 Beastboy, S3 Cyborg. Raven and Starfire are the only teen titans left to introduce. It would be safe if the show got shared on spin offs focusing on Teen Titans and Batman Inc.

      League member cripple, steal, infiltrate, cause properity damage, but don't kill. Brion called Tara a traitor, but he gave second chance to doctor Helga, what makes him a hypocrite. I hope he's not a lost cause. Surely he can no longer be in the Legue, because their first sacred rule is "thou shall not kill". I hope he'll change his relationship with the League. He along with Violet and Garfield is the most explored and complex character of the season 3.

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    • Luckily, Season 4 is already in production, so it wont be too long until we see more of the series. I would love to see Raven and Starfire in Young Justice.

      Also, if they ever brought back the original Teen Titans cartoon would you like that? I know I would.

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    • S3 was more character-oriented than S2 and the show makers told S4 will have deeper character focus. There are so many characters, that I have problem with keeping track.

      I would watch TT 2003, if the show was continued.

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    • It would be great if they did bring back the original Teen Titans to give answers for that cliffhanger, and answer other questions in the show that were never answered.

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    • I watched teaser of Shrek 5. It already looks like future failure. Old villains come back from death and team up against the main character. Such cliche was used so many times. To me it's just lazy writing for sake of exploiting cow cash franchise.

      Modern DC films have chance to replace Marvel films as dominating movie franchise, because Marvel doesn't have anything interesting more to show. DC also has competition in Fast and Furious series that became very popular since 2011, when 5th film aired.

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    • DC films are getting better. Also, now that the Avengers franchise is supposedly over I know the MCU will not be the same. I only know that other Marvel properties that weren't part of the MCU before like X-Men and Fantastic Four will be included in it. I wonder if the Fantastic Four will finally be done justice in film form. The last two times they tried it failed miserably.

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    • Not every properity. Disney failed to negotiate complete purchasing Spider-man from Sony. Disney bought Fox, so they have F4 and X-men. F4 were my least liked heroes, failed films made me like them even less. If there is another film, then I won't bother to watch. Implementing x-men to MCU will be difficult, because x-men are discriminated superheroes, when in MCU superheroes are respected.

      I am afraid of upcoming Batman film, because it already had so many director shifts, that I can imagine the film will be a mess.

      On Amazon is show "Boys" about superheroes as scums in colorful clothes, who abuse their power. The titular boys are humans fighting superheroes. This is so dark, that it discourages from watching superhero films.

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    • I'm honestly not certain what will become of superhero media with all of this trying to be dark and edgy stuff happening quite often now. This is why I miss things like the DCAU. Superhero media that know that you can be deeper and darker without needing to feel too extreme. This seems to be why media that appeals to all audiences rather to certain demographics appeals to me more.

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    • One guy on DArt STEAMRULES wishes to read you deleted fanfic, Date of Darkness. I like the fanfic, but I respect that you don't find it good enough. I explained STEAMRULES that it's your work and you have right to do with this whatever you wish.

      Have you watched 2019 film the Joker? I haven't. Not because there are controversies with it, but because I never liked the Joker, because I cartoons and games he was overused, he stole too much screentime from other villains. In 90s cartoon my favorite villain was the Riddler, because his riddles were interesting to me. My 2nd favorite was Ra's al Ghul, because I saw him as very serious threat and I liked watching martial arts.

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    • I have not watched The Joker. I might, I might not.

      Regarding my fanfics I do not intend to bring back any of the ones I consider not good or just meh. The ones I brought back are the ones I consider the best stories I wrote, and whether or not I'll ever write anymore is still unknown to me. I continue to get ideas for stories even though I am trying to move on from Loud House.

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    • I said the same to this man.

      New WW animated film will be released soon, I plan to watch it.

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    • I'll watch Wonder Woman: Bloodlines when they drop it on DC Universe. Also, I saw that they premiered the new Harley Quinn cartoon at New York Comic Con, and people seem to be reacting well to it so far.

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    • I read your article about mlp on DArt. I don't follow the show, so I didn't know it ended. I watched full 4 seasons, I tried to watch the 5th season, but it was simply not interesting enough for me to keep watching. I returned to season 6, when I heard Trixie is redeemed, but I didn't like Starlight appearing so often. I enjoyed this episode I find finale of S6 unique, because the protagonists weren't the main characters, but secondary ones, I only wished Spike was among them. I lost interest in this again, but then I heard about episode controversial Fame and Misfortune, so I watched it and I decided to take message of the episode "don't watch the show, if you're not the target audience, because you won't understand the point of this".

      I heard many complaining about modern seasons that former villains get redeemed and too easily forgiven too often. As response of this S7 finale had extreme answer by making a jerk character following philosophy "one a villain always a villain", but it's hard for me to take it seriously, when the said villain is someone I don't know. I don't like redemption story of Diamond Tiara, because in previous episode she enjoyed being a bully too much and her abusive mom was like deus ex machina. I wasn't please that Stardust and Ironwill were turned into bigger and unlikable jerks, because I liked them duirng their introductions. The red dragon, who turned out to be Smolder's insecure brother, has same problem as Tiara, he enjoyed being a bully too much to be believable about redemption.

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    • I had a feeling you had never really watched the show because of what you said in past conversations. The reason you never heard me talk about it back then is because when I first arrived on The Loud House wiki it was when I was distancing myself from the series, and I didn't reconnect with it until last year. I love the series, and I am sad to see it go. If you want a great example of an episode from Season 7 then I recommend The Perfect Pear. That's what permanently cemented my love for the series. I did like some of the redemptions like Discord, but was glad they didn't do that for every villain and antagonist. I think it's because I like how unlike many other shows the series tried to incorporate that no one is really inherently evil, and that anyone is capable of changing for the better. Though, I did think some were kind of rushed. The one about Garble felt rushed and forced since he tried to encourage Spike to kill a baby phoenix, and it's hard to buy that he was a misunderstood poet this whole time. I know some felt Diamond Tiara's redemption felt rushed, but Crusaders of the Lost Mark is one of my favorite episodes, and I love the CMC. It was very satisfying to see them get their cutie marks after five seasons. Seasons 4 and 5 are my favorite seasons of the show. I used to be like many other fans who thought Season 3 wasn't good, but after re-watching it again Season 3 isn't so bad. For the most part the show still felt the same as the first two seasons, and Season 3 did not ruin anything as some ex-fans said back then. I would consider Season 8 the show's weakest season, but there are still some good ones in there too. I think the show had it's high and low points, but ultimately remained a quality show to the end. I am proud to consider myself a brony, and I hope the show's legacy lives on.

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    • I also was sad, when many good series ended. I'll try to watch Perfect Pear.

      Showing that not every villain can be redeemed is realistic and believable. If the heroines had redeemed all villains, they would be unlikeable for being invincible. Steven Universe also was criticized for redeeming or talking down antagonists, that's why Bismuth and Jasper refusing redemption in season 3 were appreciated. Maybe not everyone is inherently evil, but everyone has own way and speed of changing. Good results by first try would be too easy.

      So we both agree that Garble's redemption wasn't good. His previous behavior didn't look like pretending at all. Many things didn't go as I'd like them to be. I didn't like that Daring Do wasn't fictional, because it came out of nowhere and I didn't see any point in defictionalization.

      S3 is controversial, because it's 13 eps long instead of 26 and because Twilight got wings. I never had problem with that. My problem here was episode Rotten Apple, because of its broken message. It said to not fight bully back, because this makes you bully yourself and you should ask adults for help. It doesn't work, because AJ didn't do anything with Tiara and Spoon. Also I don't think of revenge as a bad thing as long as avenger doesn't go overboard.

      Many don't like that in S6 Twilight's niece was born with horn and wings. I also, because being born powerful destroys sense of hard work and achievements.

      I felt sorry for Spike not developing well in the begining, the creators admited they don't like them, because they don't know what to do with him. If they don't then creating him was pointless. I am glad he got development, when he took part in dragon ceremony and did his best to defeat Garble. Spike was also wise enough to recognize he's not skilled enough to rule, so he gave the rule to the blue female dragon. I don't remember all names.

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    • Spike pretty much always had bad episodes in the beginning. He was one of the only characters in the beginning who was originally from Gen 1 of the franchise. Most of his early episodes either revolved around petty selfishness like Owls Well That Ends Well and Secret of My Excess, or he was treated like a butt monkey. It was odd how at times he would be very careless and selfish, but in other instances he seemed to have more common sense than the ponies since he would often be the one to snap Twilight out of her overreactions. It wasn't until Season 4 I believe that Spike started to get better episodes with The Equestria Games even if I do find the scene where he botches up singing that anthem in front of the stadium to be rather awkward and cringy, but he still got to save the day in the end. He started to get good in later episodes. He grew with just as much character development as the Mane 6 did.

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    • Because Spike had bad start and wasn't treated as seriously as the mane 6, I was satisfied with eps focused on his development. I still feel that in S6 finale he should be among the rescuers instead of captured ones. In Inspiration Manifestation he was the only sane one, when Rarity was crazy and he convienced her to stop. Episode Gauntlet of Fire was already mentioned. Another very good episode about Spike is one, where he was protecting Thorax and helped in proving that not all changelings are evil. Triple Threat was badly written, because whole problem was Spike's bad communication. Whole situation could be avoided. Molt Down was a good episode in my opinion, then awful Father Knows Better aired. I felt the writers just needed a filler episode for full 26.

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    • Father Knows Beast I think had the same problem many Loud House episodes do where it had an interesting concept, but it was wasted on stupid jokes instead of something that could have been better. The only good thing about that one is the growing relationship between Spike and Smolder.

      When it comes to the Mane 5 it's always been hard to pick a favorite because all of them have their own great moments, and each has something that most can relate to.

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    • Best to forget about Father Knows Beast, because it's so badly executed. Indeed Smolder saved this episode.

      I never liked Pinkie Pie, because she only keeps annoying me. My favorite perhaps is Applejack, because she's most grounded in my opinion. Like her I believe in hard work giving best effects. Twilight kept developing and making mistakes to learn from them, I like her, but she was overused. Fluttershy was always adorable and kind, but she kept learning same lesson about balance between being nice and tough. I am neutral about Rarity. I was indecisive about Rainbow Dash, because she often was cool and arrogant at same time.

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    • I like all of the Mane 6 for different reasons, but always had a hard time picking a favorite.

      The Cutie Mark Crusaders were also favorite characters of mine, and I always looked forward to their episodes even if some of the earlier CMC episodes were pretty bad like Show Stoppers, Cutie Pox, Hearts and Hooves Day, and Ponyville Confidential, but I've loved many of them like The Cutie Mark Chronicles, Flight to the Finish, Twilight Time, Crusader of the Lost Mark, The Fault in Our Cutie Marks, and Marks and Reacreation.

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    • When I was more interested in mlp I imagined centaurs as 4th major race. I didn't imagine them like Tirek, but smaller and with no magical powers. They use their attributes human arms for blacksmithing and inventions. They would be like dwarves in LOTR. I had such centaur OC named Light Hammer, who he uses his hands for artistic blacksmithing. He left his breathen, because they as practical blacksmiths didn't appreciate his artistic works.

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    • I see. That's interesting, and I think that would have made for an interesting fanfic for the MLP fan works.

      I too made fanfics about My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, and my OC is a rather unique one. He's a magical talking snake named Anguisat Jr. My friend helped me come up with the name, and we got it from the word anguis which is the Latin word for snake. One of my ideas for him was too show the lesson of not judging one because of where they came from, and who they came from. He's the son of an evil snake wizard named Anguisat obviously, but he's nothing like father, and wanted to embrace the friendship and peaceful ways of ponies. When he first came to Ponyville he is introduced to some of the Mane 6. He meets Pinkie Pie first, and she introduces him to Twilight Sparkle. She notices his father's mark on his tail, and they learn who his father is. The mark was put on him at birth so it was against his will. The others are unsure about him, and he fears that he'll have to go back to being feared and alone. He heads over to Canterlot to see if he can talk with Princess Celestia in hopes that she may believe him, and help others see that he isn't what they think he is. Spike sees him heading to Canterlot, and the Mane 6 along with Spike and Starlight go after him. He fails to gain admission to see the princesses in the castle, and Twilight and the others catch up to him. He asks Twilight if she could get him to meet with Princess Celestia, but they hear calls for help. They come across a house on fire with a family trapped inside. Jr. goes inside to get them out, and uses a spell to put out the fire instantly. He proves himself to them, and Twilight happily gets him admission into the castle. He meets with the princesses, and Celestia and Luna both believe he isn't like his father, and they are able to convince their subjects that Jr. isn't evil, and that he only wishes to be a friend among the ponies. He moves to Ponyville, and they learn that he loves to make pizza. Even though he's gifted with powerful magic he has a love for pizza making, and opens a pizzeria in Ponyville. He becomes a good friend to Twilight, the rest of the Mane 6, Spike, Starlight, the CMC, etc, and he lives a happy life among his new surrogate family.

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    • Moral of the story is not only to not judge people for their origin, but also that people need to use actions to prove they are trustworthy. Anguisat Jr. initially only was telling about his good intentions, but didn't show much, so nobody trusted him for granted.

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    • In Jr's case he usually couldn't show much since he would be immediately shunned before he could really prove anything. Also, I actually came up with this way back in 2011 when the show was still young. The only reason I mentioned Starlight is because I added her in later due to me always wanting to actually follow the continuity from the show in fan works I've made. As things changed in the show I had to update stories I came up with like the CMC getting their cutie marks, and characters who came in later on like Starlight. I had to change lines of dialogue in addition to story elements. One example being a dialogue exchange between Jr. and the CMC on cutie marks. After they go their cutie marks I had to reword the dialogue. The story that came from is this one I did that involves a vampire pony. A mysterious mare arrives in Ponyville, and soon it's revealed she's a vampire. The CMC are the heroes in this story as they have to save the day when the rest of Ponyville are turned into vampires.

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    • I heard in news that Warner Bros studio is on fire, that's a tragic disaster.

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    • Oh dear. I hadn'y heard that until now. That's really bad to find out.

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    • Happy Birthday, old friend! This year I made b-day cards on DArt for me friends. If you wish, I can make one for you too.

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    • My birthday is actually tomorrow, but thank you. Sure, I'd like a b-day card. Thank you.

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    • I'll do the b-day card after I return from my work.

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    • Thank you. Just to let you know, please no Loud House characters? Thank you.

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    • I know you don't like LH. I considered TMNT Donatello holding pizza as b-day cake. My other frined ImmatureBoys received b-day card with Dante from game series Devil May Cry.

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    • Thank you. I didn't know you remembered Donatello is my favorite of the Turtles. Classic 1987 Donnie would be great.

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    • I finished the b-day card, https://www.deviantart.com/firstdrellspectre/art/Happy-Birthday-TheCartoonOG-823721932.

      I remember you used Donatello as your icon many times. I also like him, because I prefer smart protagonists. What helps me in liking him is that in Polish version he was voiced by my favorite voice actor.

      I wish you good time with your friends and family, lot of fun and joy.

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    • Thank you amigo. The card looks great, and I love it. Thank you.

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    • Thanks for appreciating it. Recreating picture of Donnie was quite relaxing for me.

      Have you watched Harley Quinn cartoon? I watched first episode, characters designs are nice, but animation is too nasty for me. Humor of the show isn't my type.

      I was surprised, when I learned that for few years video games are made by motion capture technique. It's amazing to me. As result game characters look almost like their actors. Here is an example of making up modern game "Detroit become human." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8136CxSh5Ps

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    • You are very welcome. It was a great card.

      I did see the Harley Quinn cartoon, and I don't know how to feel about it. The style and humor isn't my type either, and I feel that the vulgarity feels gratuitous most of the time. Also, is it my imagination, or does Batman seem like the only rational character in this whole show?

      Me and my family are going out to dinner later, and right now I'm watching some Phineas and Ferb episodes on Disney+.

      Thanks again amigo.

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    • I think Harley Quinn has too dark humor and is too brutal. I'm ok with dynamic fights and some injuries, but if I'm not comfortable to see so much of blood and what's inside body. In other words like DC Extended Universe this show just misses the point.

      Have fun with Phineas and Ferb eps. I heard there is going to be another movie about Cadence prefering to stay in another dimension, because her brothers aren't there. This sounds too mean for such show. Cadence I remember doesn't hate her brothers, she cares for them. She wants to bust them, because she thinks only her parents can stop them from too dangerous plays.

      From Disney+ I watch live action show "Mandalorian", because I still like Star Wars.

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    • The new Phineas and Ferb movie comes out on Disney+ sometime next year. From what I read the plot is that she gets taken to an alien planet, and prefers to stay there since she feels more relaxed on the alien planet than back on Earth. I am looking forward to it.

      It looks like Disney+ will have to step up a bit with their original movies since so far they haven't looked good. There was the live action remake of Lady and the Tramp which I wasn't surprised had a somewhat meh reception given the majority opinion on the Disney live action remakes. I also heard that the original Christmas movies on there Noelle didn't have a very good reception. It looks like some of the Disney live action remakes will be Disney+ originals, and I guess for some people that would be better since they don't have to pay to see them. The live action remakes for Peter Pan and Sword in the Stone will be Disney+ original movies.

      The Mandolorian is a pretty interesting series on Disney+, and I've been watching it since the premiere. Other originals I've enjoyed are the Forky Asks a Question shorts, the Pixar SparkShorts, and the Pixar in Real Life shorts. I still haven't seen some of the other originals like The Imagineering Story (which is a documentary series on the Disney theme parks), Marvel's Hero Project, or The World According to Jeff Goldblum. I also need to check out that One Day at Disney documentary.

      Disney+ has so much content that it can be a challenge to decide on something to watch.

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    • Perhaps this movie will be about anti-escapism, Cadence will learn that even if her sisterly duties are exhausting and thankless, she shouldn't ignore them.

      After remakes of Aladdin and Lion King I am done with remakes. They weren't bad, but I think there shouldn't be more remakes. Disney needs improvement, those films aren't this. They just modify old scripts and use actors and cgi to recreate their old films. Lady and the Tramp remake looks bad on poster, so I didn't even bother to watch it. Sword in the Stone was never popular, Peter Pan is a broken base. Walt Disney himself wasn't fond to PP, because he didn't like bratty boys.

      The Mandalorian is looking at SW from perspective of bounty hunter instead of war heroes. The show has more grey areas in morality and it's not clear who is lighter or darker shade of grey. The baby is arguably the most popular character, because he's adorable.

      Life is constant decision making, we need to sort what we want to watch.

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    • I guess it is an upside that in the future people don't have to pay money to see some of the Disney live action remakes, but an even bigger plus is to just not have them at all. They're mostly pointless, and really offer nothing that the original animated films didn't already.

      When it comes to the Disney+ originals I am looking forward to that Monsters Inc cartoon Monsters At Work. I don't know what you would think, but I think another nice idea for a TV show is a series based on The Incredibles. One thing I always think about is which time frame would work better. Have it take place after the events of the second movie, or have it take place before the events of the first movie during the superhero golden age. Both would offer great possibilities for stories. 

      Also, Disney+ is going to bring back a new season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, but to be honest, didn't that show have enough episodes already? If they want to bring back something then bring back a show that got cancelled prematurely like Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Similar to what DC Universe did for Young Justice. I'm sure people would love it if Disney+ brought back Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

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    • Monsters at Work sounds interesting enough. Toy Story had short episodes independent from the film. I'd be glad if there were TS shorts like Cars Toons.

      The Incredibles the series would be a fandom rivalry for Big Hero 6, but Disney already has many superhero shows by Marvel. I think the Incredibles would take place after the 2nd film, because it's about superhero family with stress on family.

      SW the clone wars had more scripts for unproduced episodes, they were used for comics and books after Disney purchased Lucasfilm. The show is still great, but to me it's done. I remember comics, so I really wanted to see Quinlan Vos, so I saw him but episode with him wasn't satisfying for me. There were plans for eps about him, but those eps were put into a book.

      Avengers Earth's Mightest Heroes was a good show, but after 5 season of Avengers Assemble its revive looks like wishful thinking. DC makes better animated shows, because they are more complex storylines and more mature topics. Young Justice has too many characters, so I'd like this to have spin off like Batman Incorporated. 4th season seems to focus on Legion of Superheroes, I know them only from DC animated universe.

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    • I didn't take that into consideration, but due to Avengers: Assemble lasting five seasons then that could make it to where it would be mostly impossible to bring back Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. I heard that Avengers: Assemble was a horrible replacement, and that many were upset that they cancelled Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes for that. I've heard that the majority of the Marvel cartoons from this decade like Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers: Assemble, Hulk and the Agents of Smash, etc were terrible.

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    • Initially people don't like replacements, but sometimes they get used to this. Avengers Assemble wasn't bad, I could still enjoy it, it had still nice storylines and no forced comedy. This show was still the best from all Marvel catoons of this decade. Ultimate Spider-man was a valid reason to complain, because it had too much of forced and stupid comedy, this show is almost as bad as Teen Titans Go. Hulk and Agent of Smash was also too comedic and lucklaster in story.

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    • I see. That's pretty harsh to say Ultimate Spider-Man is almost as bad as Teen Titans Go. From saying Avengers: Assemble was the better Marvel cartoon are you implying it was better than Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes?

      Another reason I heard that many of these Marvel cartoons were bad is because they're mostly just ads for the movies.

      Is that recent Spider-Man cartoon from 2017 any good?

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    • Difficult to compare Avengers Assemble and Avengers Earth's Mightest Heroes. Both adapted different comic book stories. AA had more realistic lines, but in AEMH characters were more colourful and more sympathetic and had better soundtrack. I'd say AEMH is better, but AA is almost as good as AEMH. Rest of Marvel cartoons are much worse.

      From Modern cartoons only Avengers can be accused for being advs to the live actions films, because costumes of heroes and villains were too similar to movie counterpaths. Rest of the marvel cartoons have bigger problems with forced comedy, uncharacteristically incompetent heroes and lucklaster stories.

      Recent Spider-man is much better in story than Ultimate Spider-man and doesn't have forced comedy, but animation is much worse. Modern Spider-man has problem with slow pacing and communication between characters is almost as poor as in the Loud House. Sorry for mentioning it. I think the best is to say is that Modern Spider-man is an average show.

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    • Isn't it interesting how things like having forced comedy is what makes certain superhero cartoons bad? Of course, Teen Titans Go is still the worst example, but I prefer to just ignore the show, and pretend it doesn't exist.

      I have been wanting to give Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes a watch on Disney+, and from what you told me I might also give Avengers: Assemble a watch.

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    • I don't know if its interesting, but too much comedy can ruin every show. I don't watch TTG as well.

      I just think Avengers Assemble is only good show from modern Marvel cartoons. By modern I mean made in 2010s. If you watch S1, you can tell me what you think about it.

      Avengers Earth's Mightest Heroes is a colorful and enjoyable show to me, almost as good as JL.

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    • I've been watching Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and it's pretty good. I'm currently 20 episodes in.

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    • Wow, you watched them quite fast. I'm glad you enjoyed it. The show is similar to Justice League, but the heroes are more flawed, but it doesn't make them bad.

      First 5 episodes were introduction of heroes. In eps Breakout many supervillains escaped prison, so the plot is "have to find them all". That's a good start of many adventures. To be honest I never counted how many were captured in every episodes. Then we have to see how newly founded superhero team works, it's not an easy start and it gets harder when supervillains also form a team.

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    • Yes it is. It's also worrying when the heroes consider leaving. When Hulk leaves for a while I wondered how the ohthers would convince him to rejoin. Also, Ant-Man chooses to leave the team, but I'm currently on episode 25, and I do not know what will become of him being with the Avengers. I just know that he comes back to save Wasp from Abomination. I'll see what happens after the Season 1 finale.

      I liked how the heroes are all introduced in their own episodes with the team assembling in a two parter. I read that Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man also join the team later on. I know Ms. Marvel already appears in one of the episodes in Season 1 before she gets her powers. Many of the threats they've fought have been pretty threatening such as when Leader was trying to use gamma energy to mutate the world, when Kang the Conqueror was attempting to invade Earth, when Ultron gets control of the world's defense systems, and now with Loki towards the season finale. I cannot wait to see how the Season 1 finale turns out, and what happens in Season 2.

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    • Ant-man decided to leave, because he thought creating Ultron was an epic failure, so he's not good enough to be a hero. Even adults can't get used to their failures fast enough. Attempts to take over the world by Ultron and Leader were preety creepy and I got good scare. Kang isn't an alien, he's a genetically modified human, so I wouldn't call it invasion but conquering Earth.

      Be careful with S2, it's is harder to watch, because one arc takes over half of the season.

      Today Ms. Marvel is a confusing alias, because there are 2 superheroines. One is blond woman with cosmic powers, another is a Muslim teenage girl with ability to stretch own body. To avoid confusion the former was renamed Captain Marvel. Spider-man doesn't really join Avengers, he's part of B-team heroes, he's not a main but secondary hero.

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    • I just finished Season 1, and now I'm on the first episode of Season 2. Thanks for the heads up on how most of the season has a story arch. I honestly wish I had watched this show when it was new. It's pretty dang good.

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    • S1 was very good in my opinion, designs are cartoony, but colorful in look and personality. Villains don't have deep motivations, but they are interesting enough because of how threatening they were.

      Which of those Avengers is your most and least favorite?

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    • Season 2 starts off pretty well, and I'm looking forward to the rest of it. At the end of the Season 1 finale I know that Captain america gets attacked by what looks like an imposter, and I noticed that he was acting somewhat strange in the Season 2 premiere. Obviously something is going on. 

      In terms of who I like the most from the Avengers it can be hard to say since mostly all of them have their own great characteristics that make them all likable in their own ways, but I guess maybe I'd go with Iron Man since I've always liked him. I think heroes with no powers always have a lot of interesting traits which is why Batman is my favorite DC hero. I don't dislike any of the main Avengers so it's hard to say who I like the least.

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    • Half of S2 is one long arc. You're right that Captain was replaced by imposter.

      Iron Man likes inventing and improving technology, that's why I also liked him. He's one of few normal humans, who can be a superheroes. He depends on his high tech armor in fight, when Batman depends on gadgets and his fitness. Both are intelligent inventors and good strategists, but Batman is more humble and less arrogant. Iron man was created as Batman with opposite personality.

      My least favorite would be Hawkeye, because he's not very useful in combat and doesn't have interesting personality compare to determined Captain or progressive inventor Iron Man.

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    • Hawkeye to me is pretty much Marvel's equivalent of Green Arrow, but not as interesting.

      Captain America is another character I like quite a lot in the show. I really liked that moment he has with Hulk where Hulk is still thinking others view him as a monster, but Captain America assures him that he isn't. It felt more genuine coming from him since Captain America wasn't there when Hulk originally split from the team because of how he felt others (including the Avengers) viewed him.

      Speaking of Hulk, when the team were all separated across the nine realms I was originally worried that the people Hulk was saving from those orc like creatures would fear him as some beast, but luckily they accepted him as a hero.

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    • Captain is Hulk's closest if only friend in the team, because he's most tolerant. Captain is a personification of idealism after all.

      Hulk was accepted in realm of trolls, what was a nice change after years of not being accepted on Earth. Easy to accept what's similar, "monster" is not and outsider for other "monsters".

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    • I'm more than halfway into Season 2 now, and it gets pretty intense especially during the Skrull invasion. It was great to finally see Spider-Man in the series since I love Spider-Man.

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    • Skrull invasion arc had quite deep message in the end "Broken friendships and trust are much harder to repair than broken bones and buildings". After this arc some episodes have lighter tone so the audience could take a breath. You'll see Spiderman again, you can be sure of it.

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    • Our common acquaintance Yoshi experienced trauma due to many deaths of his countrymen in fire. I can only wish him to find peace and recover. https://www.deviantart.com/realyoshiplayer/art/Peace-in-Death-824103743

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    • I too have noticed this, and I feel a lot of sympathy for my friend. Yoshi has become one of the closest friends I've made online, and I wish I could help him in someway. I'm sad that was plagues my home is now plaguing his. here in the state of California it's been dry for many years, and for a few years we hardly had any rain. As a result there were wildfires in parts of California, and for the last five years or so there were always days and weeks of smoke filled air, and people who had lost their homes because of the fires. Even in the cold seasons we had fires due to how dry it's been. We got some rain recently, and it's been a lot better. In fact the last few years we've started getting more water, but we still need more. I'm sad that was plagued my neck of the woods is now plaguing Yoshi's, and I feel very bad for him. I truly wish him well.

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    • I've continued on with more Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes episodes, and if I can be honest it feels somewhat empty without Ant-Man on the team.

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    • For Christmas I wish you good rest from work and lovely time with your family.

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    • Thank you. I wish your family a great holiday as well. I'm almost do e with Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and the reveal of Red Hulk sure was quite an episode. I didn't like General Ross from the moment I saw him. I "love" it how obsessive fanaticism turns you into what you hate.

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    • I learned you can't give general Xmas wishes, because then they are hollow. Coming to center of room and saying "I wish you all Merry X-mas" is an empty act, same about doing this on FB. The only good way is to give wishes to friends one by one, also everyone needs individual wishes, because everyone is different. So that's why I write to you like this.

      General Ross is like General Eilling in DC, they both made themselves muscular monsters to fight the heroes. Ross appeared in older cartoons, he wanted to kill Hulk, because he saw him as too dangerous. In other versions he wants to kill Hulk, so his genes would be injected to soldiers and Ross would have army of hulks on his command. Avengers Earth Mightest Heroes is the first cartoon, where Ross became red hulk to fight fire by fire.

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    • One thing I find interesting how when it comes to DC and Marvel heroes some have similarities with one hero, but not entirely. For example, Superman and Hulk are both super strong with them both being pretty much invulnerable, but in terms of personality Superman has more in common with Captain America.

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    • Actually Superman's equivalent in Marvel is Hyperion, but he's a villain. Captain America has Superman's idealism, but he's not invunerable.

      Marvel and DC copy from each other for decades, so I started to look for differences. I haven't noticed Batman's equivalent in Marvel. Tony Stark is a rich normal human and genius like Bruce Wayne, but Bruce had peak human fitness, when Tony uses cybernetic armor. Tony Stark is more like good equivalent of Lex Luthor, because he's also arrogant and narcisstic. Bruce Wayne is a humble man, who only acts playboy so nobody would connect him with Batman.

      Controversially WW's equivalent would be Thor, because they both are offsprings of ancient deities with superhuman strength and trandemark weapons. Diana represents woman power and Thor old standard man power.

      Marvel also doesn't seem to have counterpart of Green Lantern or the Joker. Some argue that Carnage is Joker's equivalent, but I disagree, both are nihilistic psychos, but Joker doesn't have supernatural powers.

      Infamous copy is Thanos as copy of Darkseid as powerful and brutal alien tyrant, when Mongul is a copy of Thanos as alien warmonger.

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    • I meant that in terms of personality Superman and Captain America have similarities. I know Captain isn't invulnerable like Superman so that doesn't make him Superman's Marvel equivalent. One thing I've had on the mind recently is if the DCAU version of the Justice League and the Avengers from EMH crossed over and had a team up who would it be that they teamed up with to fight? Would it be a bunch of random super villains from both sides that came together to wreak havoc? I cannot really see Darkseid teaming up with someone like Thanos since it's obvious that as soon as both learn of each other's dimensions they would try to conquer each other's universes.

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    • Thanos and Darkseid wouldn't team up, because they have completelly different goals. T wants to kill life, when D wants to enslave it.

      Initially Justice League would take Avengers for villains, they remember Justice Lords and Injustice Syndicate. They fight and accuse them for destroying reality until they realize they have common enemies. I think villains would be Impossible Man and Mr. Mzxysk (I never remember this name), they are reality warping aliens. They compete about who's most creative and most powerful, but their competition causes Marvel and DC universe collide.

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    • The character's name is Mister Mxyzptlk. That would be an interesting crossover. Do you think each character would summon villains from both universes to fight the Justice League and Avengers, or do you think they'd just use their reality warping powers to mess with them, and summon monsters for them to fight?

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    • I think those reality warpers would summon monsters from other dimensions. One of them suggest villains, but another hits him in head for this and tells him that's stupid, because the heroes defeated those villains many times, so they know how to defeat them, but none of them fought monsters. Those reality warpers also would mess with the heroes, Mister Mxyzptlk loves annoying Superman.

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    • I would also assume Superman would inform the Marvel heroes of how to get rid of Mxyzptlk is to trick him into saying his name backwords.

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    • Mxyzptlk is smart enough to not fall on same trick again, so forcing him to turn into plane and chase Superman to make him write this in air. Do you think it would work, if he was givien a catchy song to listen? He enjoys song so much that he starts singing it, but he doesn't notice that first letters of words form kltpzyxm.

      Impossible Man was defeated by ignoring him, because he's an attention hog and gets out, when he's ignored.

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    • That would be an interesting way to trick him. Also, since I'm not familiar with Impossible Man I didn't know it is that easy to make him go away.

      I finished Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and it's too bad it didn't have more episodes. It would have been nice if it had another season.

      One thing I find weird is that all throughout this year there have been articles on various sites related to Futurama, but it sucks that there wasn't anything really done for the show's 20th anniversary even though other show's that had anniversaries this year like Sesame Street and even SpongeBob had something done to commemorate them.

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    • Impossible Man can be defeated like standard supervillain, so the only way is to make him leave. He's an attention hog, so when nobody is interested in him, then he leaves to find other dimension.

      I'm glad you enjoyed Avenger Earth Mightest Heroes. I also wished for another season, but Disney purchased Marvel, so all changed. The final episode is like showing the writers are aware of the end of the series. Like Iron Man said in the final episode, it wasn't fight good vs evil, but fight to survive. Some arcs were ended before they were developed enough like Surtur or Korvac. Avengers Assemble didn't continue them, because it's more like show based on 2012 film.

      Futurama is now in hands of Disney, but even big corp like them have problem with ulitizing all workers to work on every franchise they have in pocket. Also even if Disney has enough money, they didn't have enough time to make anniversary special episode or short film.

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    • Even if they didn't make some anniversary special they could have done something for Futurama. Like a new wave of merchandise to celebrate 20 years.

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    • I watched animation Deathstroke Knights and Dragon and it was enjoyable to watch. If you watch it, you can tell me, what you think. Here is link, I hope Polish subs don't botehr you https://vidoza.org/embed-uldtevm9wnu3.html?asgtbndr=1

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    • I'll check it out at some point. I think I can check it out on a site I have here. 

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    • After reading your post https://www.deviantart.com/thecartoonog/status/19636805

      I decided to watch the owl house too. Luz is a teenage Hispanic girl with fantastic imagination, who got sucked into fantasy world. Animation is nice for eye, Luz is well designed and she decided to free prisoners, who's only crimes were not fitting heinous standards of the tyrannical ruler. The premiese isn't original, but now it's too early to judge it. I only hope it's better than Star Butterfly vs forces of evil.

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    • We've only had one episode so far, but I can see a lot of potential with The Owl House. I really look forward to seeing what more the show has to offer. 

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    • Have you watched 2nd ep of the Owl House? I did.

      Luz wanted to be a chosen one with an adventurous quest like enchanteress in her favorite fantasy novel. She found a wizard, who gave such typical quest. From the start I suspected it's a trick, because the wizard was suspiciously nice. She had her fantasy travel, but it turned out to be an illusion. I expected those met characters to be illusion as well, not puppets. Luz had a valuable lesson, that to be special it needs to be earned first. She fell for the trap, because she's still a naive teen and she didn't adjust to the magical world yet.

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    • I just finished watching the new episode a bit ago. I didn't get to catch it yesterday because the TV was unavailable when the episode aired. I could have watched the encore presentation later in the night, but it wasn't until close to midnight, and I was really tired. Plus, I had to get up early for work today so I just went to bed.

      Today's new episode was a nice one. I thought it was fun how they subverted the chosen one trope, and the whole thing of the antagonist being a puppeteer was a fun way of showing him as a trickster. The ending was also nice. I am really looking forward to more of The Owl House.

      On Disney+ I've been watching through Avengers: Assemble, and to be honest after watching through most of it all I am thinking is how I wish they hadn't cancelled Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Avengers: Assemble isn't a terrible show, but it is not as good. Also, this one episode that had Spider-Man in it I think I may have seen a glimpse of the bad humor that's in Ultimate Spider-Man. There's a couple of instances where Spider-Man goes into this chibi form while breaking the fourth wall. Even though I never actually watched Ultimate Spider-Man I think I got a glimpse into what the humor in that show is like. 

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    • We both have jobs, so it's understandable.

      The Owl House had a good subvertion of the chosen one. In modern times, it's popular to subvert cliche themes. I would use manipulator instead of trickster, because he had malicious intentions. Have fun with the show.

      I also kept comparing Avengers Assemble to it's predecessor. I told it's not as good, but not bad. You saw only small glimpse of Ultimate Spider-man, those chibi forms are ways of Spidey breaking the 4th wall. In USM he breaks the 4th wall and shows goofy scenes with chibi forms. However I don't recommend you to watch the show, because it's comparable to Teen Titans Go, as in both shows characters are stupid insufferable jerks making idiotic decisions and damaging more than saving, their mentor Nick Fury isn't better, because he lies to them and created many villains by his own incompetence. This Nick Fury is nothing like in Avengers Earth Mightest Heroes.

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    • I'm almost done with the fourth season of Avengers: Assemble. I know that it's fifth season has less episodes than the first four so I should get done with it quicker.

      For the longest time I've heard nothing but bad things about all of the Marvel Disney XD cartoons that came out after Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Avengers: Assemble is tolerable, but from what a lot have told me there's nothing good about Ultimate Spider-Man and Hulk and the Agents of Smash. From what I saw in that episode of Spidey it looks like Ultimate Spider-Man was trying to do what the original Teen Titans cartoon did with the chibi forms, but didn't do it well. There was also an episode where they mention that SHIELD has a program for training young heroes, and I know that in Ultimate Spider-Man he and some other young heroes are in some kind of superhero school almost. Looks like they don't learn good lessons from what I've been told. I read that Hulk and the Agents of Smash also has fourth wall breaks, and I also read that it's done from the perspective that what Hulk is doing is being filmed on some kind of reality show. The producers of these Marvel cartoons really were not aiming high. 

      I also watched through almost the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe, and I really wish I had gotten into it sooner. The only ones I haven't seen yet are The Incredible Hulk and Spider-Man: Far From Home. Many have told me that The Incredible Hulk isn't that important anyway since it's a different actor, and it doesn't really have much continuity with the rest of the MCU. With Far From Home I have to find another way to watch it since it isn't on Disney+. Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, and Ant-Man and the Wasp aren't on there yet, but I watched them on Netflix. All three of them will be added to Disney+ throughout this year as the Netflix agreements expire. This whole streaming rights mumbo jumbo is really annoying. The reason The Incredible Hulk and the two Spider-Man films aren't on Disney+ is because Hulk is actually owned by NBCUniversal, and Spider-Man is owned by Sony. I watched Spider-Man: Homecoming by renting it on Amazon Prime. I still have to watch Far From Home though. I know they want to get all of the MCU on Disney+ at some point, but all the legal business has to be settled first. Anyway, the MCU is awesome for the most part, and I am now a fan of it. I got teary eyed at the end of Avengers: Endgame.

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    • I watched those Disney XD Marvel shows to have my own opinion.

      I think After Avengers Earth Mightest Heroes only good is Avengers Assemble. Not as good as the predecessor, but I enjoyed it. I think the best is S3, becuase I felt the storylines were most interesting and planned in the best ways. 5th season is like show based on 2018 Black Panther. However I think the 5th season is good thanks to complex story, many plot twists and surprises, it's not a direct sequel to the film, because some characters are villains despite being heroes in the films.

      Ultimate Spider-man to me has too many unsympathetic characters making stupid decisions, it's only less surreal than TTG. In Shield superhero school the young heroes aren't good learners and they remind me Anakin from prequel Star Wars trilogy. Hulk and Agents of Smash is more like documentary film than reality show, because the main characters tell to camera what they think about what was just shown. They record all on camera to have evidences that they are heroes and not villains like most of people think of them, because they are destructive saviors. Concept was interesting, but the execution didn't go well, because stories are generic and antagonists are luckluster, brutes or generic evil geniuses.

      In MCU I don't think the Incredible Hulk isn't important, because it introduces Hulk and General Ross. Hulk's origin story doesn't take whole film like most superhero films do. I enjoyed this film, because it was quite spectacular despite it's simple story and climax fight was very emotional. Different actor isn't a problem to me, Edward Norton left MCU, because they argued too much, so he was replaced by Mark Ruffalo.

      I think 1st phase of MCU is good, because stories are quite interesting for origin episodes. 2nd phase is infamous from generic villains and recycling stories from previous films. In 2nd phase I think on Captain America Winter Soldier is worth watching. 3rd phase has interesting and relatable villains, less much formulatic stories and better visual effects.

      Those problems with rights also annoy me. It exists, because in late 20th century Marvel had financial problems, so sold rights to their characters on left and right, Fox purchased X-men, Sony purchased Spider-man, Universal purchased Hulk, Paramount purchased Iron Man, etc. Now Marvel is owned by Disney, so they try to buy all Marvel rights, but Sony and Universal don't want to make anything easier for Disney.

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    • The MCU has a lot to offer in all phases. The first phase while good does have a couple weaker films. The best from Phase 1 are Iron Man, Captain America: The First Avenger, and The Avengers. Iron Man 2 is the worst not only of Phase 1, but the entire MCU. The fact that Whiplash takes a backseat to some jerk in a suit really sucks. The climax is really disappointing with how quickly Whiplash is defeated, and Tony is a complete moron in a number of scenes. That party scene is horrible. It's also bad how Jon Favreau's story was really interfered with to make the movie a commercial for The Avengers. Thor was cool, but not the best. Still good though.

      Phase 2 for the most picks things up. I quite liked Iron Man 3, but felt it had the same villain problem as the second film. Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, and Ant-Man are the best in this phase. Thor: The Dark World is okay, but kind of forgettable. Weakest of the Thor movies. Avengers: Age of Ultron while enjoyable is the weakest of the Avengers films. The film still had some good ideas, and Ultron was quite compelling as a character.

      Phase 3 is pretty consistent throughout. Many of the best films are in this phase. Captain America: Civil War, Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 Spider-Man: Homecoming, Thor Ragnorok, Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War, Ant-Man and the Wasp, and Avengers: Endgame are all either really good, or flat out amazing. I still haven't seen Spider-Man: Far From Home, and Captain Marvel while not bad is the weakest of Phase 3.

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    • I agree about IM2 as the worst part of phase 1. The climax was too short to enjoy. Between first and second fight Iron Man vs Whiplash I felt like nothing happened. Both Whiplash and Justin Hammer weren't interesting villains. The party looked like taken from other film. Thor has standard story, but Loki is an interesting villain, because he's conflicted and skilled at manipulation, Thor himself was a big jerk, who had to lose his power to learn humility.

      I'm happy you liked IM3, because I wasn't such enthusiast. The story is mediocore and villains weren't interesting, Killian's motive for being a villain was stretched, the fake Mandarin caused outrage among fans. In Avengers Age of Ultron, I felt like the movie makers tried to put too much in one film. In Phase 2 too much happened around Tony Stark. He created Ultron, what in comics is creation of Hank Pym. He indirectly created Killian as villain. Maximoff twins blamed Stark for deaths of their parents just because terrorists used his weapons, what looked like stretched displaced retribution, but I suspect Obadiah Stane sold those weapons back then. Shipping between Bruce and Natasha was so forced. Scene of Thor taking a magical bath to learn something was very weird and narmy to me. Baron Strucker in film is somehow a wasted character, especially when comparing him to his counterpart in Avengers Earth Mighest Heroes. I have to admit fight between hypnotized Hulk and Ironman was spectacular and Ultron was a compelling villain.

      I enjoyed Captain America Winter Soldier thanks to complex and interesting plot, but I wish the film had different title as the titular antagonist doesn't appear much, but fight scenes between Captain and Soldier were spectacular.

      I enjoyed Guardians of the Galaxy so much, I got interested in Telltale adventure game and animated tv show based on them. Game had some charm, but the tv show isn't good, because the plot is weird, I didn't understand jokes and Starlord in the show isn't as cool as in the film. We both agree about Thor.

      I didn't think what film is the weakest of Phase 3. I enjoyed the films you mentioned, every one of them has their own unique reasons to enjoy them.

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    • Iron Man 3 definitely has it's problems, but it was still good on it's own for the most part. There were many cool scenes like when Iron Man saves all of those people who fell out of a plane, and the climax in this film was much better than the one from the second film. The fake Mandarin was something I didn't like since the fake videos of him made him look really threatening and cool, but when it's revealed that it was all bogus that really wrecked the villain of the movie. Also, the whole thing of Tony having nervous breakdowns because of the the events of The Avengers were interesting since he's seeing how big the universe is, and how small he is compared to the entire universe which causes him to have nervous breakdowns. Also, the bond Tony makes with that kid was nice to see. Not one of the top 10 MCU films at all, but still fine on it's own. It does have flaws though.

      In regards to Avengers: Age of Ultron I thought it had good ideas, but I'm in full agreement that it feels like too much was put into it. Ultron is a compelling villain especially since he doesn't try to present himself as a villain. I thought it was neat how he feels he has all of the answers, and that he just wants others to get him. I know he has violent outbursts, and I thought his reactions after his outbursts were done in a way where he pretty much says "No, I didn't mean it that way. I just want you to get where I'm coming from". 

      In regards to what I would consider my absolute favorite MCU films these are pretty much the ones I liked the most.

      Avengers: Engame

      Spider-Man: Homecoming

      Captain America: Civil War

      Iron Man

      Thor: Ragnarok

      Black Panther

      Captain America: The Winter Soldier

      Doctor Strange

      Ant-Man

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    • I never thought that Tony would think this way. Now he knows the universe is much bigger than he knew and he's afraid of understanding this. Before he experienced contact with aliens, he thought of himself as someone able to solve all problems, now he's knows he's like a normal fish in a small pond. This is really stressful for everyone, when there appears problems much bigger than problems they already solved. In IM2 Rhody got his armor, so many expected in IM3 Pepper to have her armor, but nobody expected her to get Killian's powers and using them against him.

      Ultron in MCU has creepy design. He has violent outbursts, because he doesn't have much experience with life. As he doesn't feel pain, he doesn't understand Klaw felt pain, so for him amputation was merely a forgivable overreaction. Initially he wants to ensure peace by killing dangerous people, but later his motive decays to genocide of humans, because he finds them unworthy.

      I have similar choice of favorite films of MCU, but I prefer Guardians of the Galaxy over Ant-man.

      Initially I liked MCU Tony Stark, but I grew tired of him involved in so many films that didn't focus on him. Playing mentor of Peter Parker instead of Ben Parker and giving Peter his iconic suit was controversial. Tony created four villains by his actions Ultron, Vulture, Zemo and someone I'd rather not spoil.

      In May 2020 film focused on Black Widow will be released, but I think they could have done this film 10 years ago.

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    • While I'm a fan of the MCU now I'm not too excited for the Black Widow movie. I'm more looking forward to Inhumans, but that wont be coming out until November. After havng learned of the Inhumans from Avengers: Assemble I'm very much interested in the movie. There's only going to be two MCU films this year instead of three, and I think it has to do with James Gunn being fired and then rehired because I think Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was supposed to be this year's third Marvel film. Because of the problems happening behind the scenes the movie's release got delayed. 

      One thing about Black Panther that surprised me is how I hated General Ross in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, but he was okay in the Black Panther film. In Black Panther he's actually helpful, and he didn't get on my nerves like in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. 

      When mentioning my favorite MCU films I only mentioned nine of them. I'm trying to make a top 10 best MCU films, but I'm debating on the tenth film on the list. Guardians of the Galaxy is a strong contender. I'm debating if I'll put The Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy on the list to have 10 films. I was also thinking of putting Avengers: Infinity War on the list, but I might put Guardians instead. I still haven't seen Spider-Man: Far From Home, and there's also a possibility that could be a film I really like as well. Whichever of these I don't put on the list will be honorable mentions.

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    • Not Inhumans, but Eternals. They are 2 different groups.

      Inhumans were already adapted in internet series, but it was panned by critics and watchers, because this interpretation of Inhumans made them unlikable protagonist villains and Maximus an antagonist hero. Because of this the show was cancelled.

      I was surprised about General Ross in Black Panther as well. The film itself is well written, has some cool plot twists and has deep messages about racism. Characters are likable, even the villains.

      I'm not fond to Spider-man Far From Home. It's one of films I dislike, when everyone else does. Without Spoilers, the film is predictable and the antagonist in the previous film was better.

      I heard James Gunn wasn't exactly fired, he left, because Disney mistreated him. He agreed to return to direct Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3, but he's still more eager to work for Warner.

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    • I cannot believe I misread that. Thank you for clearing that up. The Eternals is what's being adapted into one of the two movies this year. That's a franchise I don't know anything about, but I've always liked the films that don't focus on any of the main Avengers in the MCU. I'm also curious to see how the MCU handles the Fantastic 4 since they've never been done justice in film. 

      I'm also glad that the DC films are getting better at Warner Bros. I know James Gunn is directing the Suicide Squad sequel, and let us hope it is better than that trainwreck of a first film. It's too bad there isn't a way to completely erase the damage that was done by Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Suicide Squad, and Justice League. Wonder Woman was great, Shazam! was great, Aquaman was okay. I'm hoping Wonder Woman 1984 also turns out good. It was a dark time for a while to be a DC fan with how bad most of the films were, and how Marvel was completely kicking their butts. Let us also not forget how they cancelled good shows like Young Justice. It looks like both Dc and Marvel had that same problem in the early 2010s where any good shows they had like Young Justice, Avengers: Mightiest Heroes, Spectacular Spider-Man, and shows with potential like Green Lantern got cancelled only to make room for stuff like Ultimate Spider-Man, Hulk and the Agents of Smash, and Teen Titans Go. Luckily, Young Justice got revived by DC Universe. I've heard people say that the 2017 Spider-Man cartoon is fine, but it's nothing special. Having good superhero cartoons was quite rare in the last decade.

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    • Do you still watch Owl House? I do.

      3rd episode about magic school was kind of enjoyable. Maybe I think that, because I'm a former fan of Harry Potter. The students remind more characters from anime Little Witch Academia, because Willow is an underdog witch like Akko and Amilty is an overachieving ace like Diana. Luz saw herself in Willow, so she wanted to help her by cheating. It's not fair, but arrogant Amity deserved this humble pie. Too bad Luz was banned in this school, but after mess she caused it's not surprising.

      4th episode revealed that Eda is cursed. I guess the legal enchanters cast curses on illegal witches as punishment for refusing to submit to restricting laws. It also gives the legal enchanters reason to be seen as needed, because they hunt the monsters, but the cursed witches are also used as scapegoats.

      5th episode was enjoyable, we learn that Eda has a sister, who unlike her submitted to restricting law system. Amity returned and is still hostile to Luz, but hard to blame her. I don't know why, but despite Amity is an arrogant jerk, I still want her and Luz to become friends. Maybe it's because Amity has a cute look.

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    • I still have to watch the last two episodes. I've been liking the show, but I've also been distracted by other things recently, and I forgot to check out the fifth episode yesterday.

      I started watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars on Disney+. As someone who does not like the Prequels I'm surprised with how well done the series is. I'm on Season 4 at the moment, and I'm hoping to be cuaght up with the series before the new season comes out on Disney+ later this month. 

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    • I watched whole series and I enjoyed it a lot. Unlike many fans I always liked Ashoka Tano, I saw her as a nice new addition. Episode Rookies is one of the best due to interesting plot.

      Because I liked Quinlan Vos from comics, I kept hoping he'd appear, but he only appeared in one episode and it barely showed his character's depth. Because the show got canceled, his later appearances were put in books.

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    • I haven't seen that character yet, but I'm assuming he appears in a later episode. The episode I just finished is the Season 4 episode The General. Many of the episodes I've really liked have been the ones about the Clone Troopers. The Clone Troopers can really pull off good stories. Also, it's great how unlike in the Prequels we actually get more depth into the other characters including other Jedi.

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    • That's one of the strongest parts of the show, its reminds that SW isn't just force users. We also get to know alien races better.

      When I realized that I can't expect Quinlan Vos to appear again, I rewatched the show and enjoyed the rest. To my surprise Jar Jar Binks in the show has better portplay than in the films, I couldn't believe that's possible.

      Bounty hunters are cool antagonists, because they show they can match and even outmatch force users despite lacking connection to the force.

      S3 and S4 added more shades of grey, it showed that heroes and villains can be on both sides.

      Conflicts between villains is also interesting part. The sith have rule of 2, what means there are only master and student, the latter takes own student when decides to betray and kill their master. Dooku bent the rule by training Grievous in lightsaber arts and Ventress as dark jedi. Difference between sith and dark jedi is level of dark side knowledge, turning on the dark side is not enough to become a sith. Dooku tried to kill Ventress to prove his loyalty to Palpatine. So Ventress asked her sisters for asisstance in vengeance, but cycle of violance doesn't get broken, because Dooku ordered Grievous to kill Ventress and her sisters for trying to kill him.

      I watched the show in Polish version, actor who voiced the clone troopers passed away in September 2019, so rewatching the show is harder for me.

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    • I know what you mean about about how Season 3 can become grey when it comes to good guys and bad guys. When Padme goes behind enemy lines to talk with her old friend it was interesting to see how the Separatists are almost alike as the Republic with how they only think of the survival of their people. Not only that, but they too shared the same ideals of wanting to end death as much as possible by attempting to make more peaceful negotiations with their enemy. It was surprising how many of the higher ups on the Separatists side wished for all the violence to stop as much as many of the senators in the Republic do.

      The characterizations are much better here than in the Prequels, and the voice actors deliver great performances compared to the stiff, wooden acting from the awful Prequels. Anakin is portrayed better, but at times does have some of that distracting arrogant, jerkwaude attitude that really made me think he was corrupted by the dark side even before he was actually supposed to. It wasn't any better than one episode reminded us of how he committed mass murder in Episode 2 which we know involved killing children. Not to mention in the episodes where they end up on that planet with the living representations of the force we are shown brief visions of Anakin going to the dark side which shows him murder children again. Until those episodes I was able to distance the Prequels as if this show is it's own thing, but when I was reminded of the events of Episode 2 it was harder to do so. 

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    • I watched LH episode, where Tara "played", but her character's voice doesn't resemble hers. Even if she played, I think it's hiring veteran actors as guest stars to save the show from losing audience.

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    • I'm just saying to look deeper if she was actually in the episode since it's possible it could be bogus.

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    • Interesting how you said that regarding the show. Interesting how it's only now that certain voice actors start appearing on The Loud House. 

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    • I started watching the Big Hero 6 cartoon on Disney+ recently, and while the show isn't bad the animation style leaves much to be desired. I really do not like the crude Flash animation of this show.

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    • LH keeps losing it's quality, so they try to save themselves by hiring popular voice actors.

      I watched whole Big Hero 6 series and I enjoyed it, but the 1st season is like average introduction, not many interesting villains. 2nd season is better, because more grouded, has better pacing and villains are more competent and deeper. The show doesn't have funny jokes and some character can be annoying. The crude animation of this show isn't problem for me, because it's still tolerable to me.

      What do you think about 2014 film? I enjoyed it, because it was colorful and emotional. Also the film was released about time I lost my mom, so I could relate to Hiro's loss, there was a good advice "be with family and friends, if you lost someone". The film doesn't have an original story, but it's executed well.

      The Owl House is perhaps a good example of grey morality. Eda and Luz are on side of limitless individuality, what is treated as chaos and felony. Lilith and Amity are on the side of law, but it has strict limitations and destroys individuality. It's not always easy for young audience, when they are supposed to root for criminals instead of cops.

      I tried to watch Glitch Techs on Netflix. It's like American version of Digimon Savers, because main characters fight monsters from video games called glitches and they erease memories of witnesses like in Man in Black. Also humans fight monsters by technology instead of other monsters. The show is hard to watch, not because of the story, but because it's very flashy. To secure my eyes I need to watch this in sunglasses.

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    • I really like the 2014 Big Hero 6 film. It's not as good as some of the other great Disney films of the last decade like Zootopia and Wreck-It Ralph, but I still really liked it. I can also relate to losing someone because the year before I lost my grandmother, and the year after the film came out I lost my aunt. I also thought it was neat how we got a Marvel project that was actually made by Disney themselves because even though the MCU films are distributed by Disney and the Marvel cartoons air on Disney XD they don't have actual input with them. They are made by their respective studios with Disney just distributing them. With the exception of the Phineas and Ferb crossover 2 parter Mission Marvel, and the Big Hero 6 film and cartoon Disney themselves have never really created any other Marvel projects that they themselves had creative involvement with.

      Going back to the Big Hero 6 cartoon it's cool how many of the actors from the films reprise their roles with the exceptions of Damon Wayans Jr. as Wasabi, and TJ Miller as Fred. Odd because TJ Miller was one of the few people from the How to Train Your Dragon franchise to reprise Tuffnut for the TV shows so it makes me wonder why he didn't reprise Fred for this show. Wasabi being voiced by Khary Payton gives me flashbacks to Teen Titans, and in some ways it almost feels like Disney was trying to make their own version of the Teen Titans cartoons with this show.

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    • So we both know pain of losing a loved relative.

      When a great animated film like Zootopia is aired, many next films are compared to this. I know it sounds obvious, but to me film can still be enjoyable, even if it doesn't live to standards of ace.

      Originally I thought Big Hero 6 is an original superhero team, I didn't know it existed in Marvel before. Disney's Marvel has most profits from cinematic films, their superhero cartoons are mostly milking cash cows. I see only Avengers' Assemble as the only watchable animation by Disney's Marvel, rest is poor due to lackluster storylines and animation gets cheaper. If 2017 Spider-man was compared to Big Hero 6 series, then BH6 would win, because their animation is at least nicer for eyes, SM's animation is soulless.

      Do you think good story can recompensate average animation?

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    • I remember you told me that the 2017 Spider-Man is better than Ultimate Spider-Man, but animation wise it doesn't look that good.

      I can agree with that notion that just because one product from a company doesn't quite measure up to the greatest work they've done it doesn't mean it still can't be good in it's own way. I don't dislike A Bug's Life just because it's not at the same level as other Pixar greats like Finding Nemo, Up, The Incredibles, Inside Out, WALL-E, and the Toy Story films. I still enjoy A Bug's Life just for what it is.

      I still have not seen the new Netflix animated series Glitch Techs, but that's mostly because I've been so preoccupied with Disney+ that I've been neglecting some of the other streaming services I'm also subscribed to minus when a new episode of a show I watch on them came out. I'm more interested in checking out this other show that recently came out on Netflix called Kipo and the Age of Wonder Beasts before I watch Glitch Techs.

      Going back to Disney+ I saw the first episode of Season 7 of Clone Wars, and it feels like the show never left.

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    • Thanks for reminding. S-M 2017 has cheaper animation than Ultimate S-M, but at least it doesn't have comedy a la Teen Titans Go or stupid jerks as protagonists. S-M 2017 has bit slow pacing, but at least more mature story than Ultimate S-M.

      After Zootopia, I still could enjoy Moana and Tangled. Those two don't have deep messages or complex stories or rich world building like Zootopia, but are still enjoyable thanks to adventure and visual effects.

      Speaking of Pixar, I can't wait to see Onward. I never heard about Kipo and the Age of Wonder, but I can try it.

      Clone Wars returned already? This is almost like birthday present.

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    • Yes, Clone Wars came out with it's seventh season. One new aspect of this season is this group of Clone Troopers who are more out there than your usual clones.

      I am excited for Onward. We still have to wait about another week and a half, but it's not much longer. We have had to go more than two months without a new animated film, but better to wait a bit for a quality film than get a few subpar ones in between.

      Even though I am trying to move on from Loud House I cannot let go of Rodney. I still come up with thoughts from time to time, and have recently had thoughts of him meeting the Casagrande family.

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    • I saw trailer of those clones, they are mutated imperfect clones. This looks to me like message that imperfect people also have their strengths, if they are used right.

      I watched video about your conversation with RealYoshiPlayer about upcoming 2020 animations. Before I heard you, I would never think of comparing Onward to Shrek. I don't think they are so similar, Shrek is about looking at fairy tales from perspectives of monsters and villains, when Onward is about fantasy creatures undergoing social and industrial progress.

      I am still on LH wikia only to earn 365 days badge, I have over 145 days left. I am not fond to the show anymore, but I still like making fanarts featuring cute moments. The Casagrandes aren't that different from the Loud House, same stories can be used in both parent show and spin off, to add insult to injury many eps are just recycled scripts. You put lot of effort in your Rodney, that's why you can't let go of him. I understand it, because I put lot of effort in co-writing Leo Loud.

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    • That's also what I got from the first episode. They even call themselves Troop 99 as a reference to that other imperfect clone 99 who served as a janitor. That was such a sad death.

      We never really compared Onward to Shrek. We just said we're glad Onward is using a fantasy setting without using the Shrek formula.

      On the subject of Rodney if he met the Casagrande family how do you think they would react to him?

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    • I remember how Clone 99 was gunned down, after he inspired clone cadets to fight droids.

      Sorry for wrongly remembering this.

      Difficult question. Carlota would comment his clothes, because she's a trendy fashionista. Carlino would say some rude comments, because he arrogantly thinks he's smarter than everyone. CJ is a nice kid, he would be happy to see Rodney as his new friend. Frida would make him a photo and cry about having a new aquintance. Carlos would give Rodney some scientific trivias for good morning. Rosa would comment how skinny Rodney is and offer him her food, but she wouldn't take any criticism about her food well. Hector would see Rodney as his new customer, so he'd try to convience him to buy something. Bobby and Ronnie would be most interested in Rodney as friend of Louds.

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    • I get the feeling they would receive him well for the most part. In my fanfics Bobby and Ronnie Anne already knew him if you remember. Going back to Rosa do you imagine she would get mad if Rodney went out at one point and came back with Burpin Burger, and she's tell him "No outside food"? Me and Muppetspot thought that because of how Carlino thinks Lori is too good for Bobby I also wonder if he would think Rodney isn't good enough for Leni since she's a pretty girl while he's an average looking boy. I'm surprised you remember that Rodney is a skinny guy, and that Rosa would insist on feeding him. I think CJ would be the one who inistantly becomes friends with him. I would assume Maria, Rosa, Hector, Carlos, and Frida would all like him since he's a very sweet natured boy.

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    • It seems I forgot Rodney met Bobby and Ronnie. Rosa would really get mad and be a jerk to him, because in matter of food she's really self-righterous. I think Carlino would think that only, if he had crush on Leni and because he doesn't, he doesn't really mind Rodney liking Leni, but Carlino would still think he looks better than Rodney. I agree with you about CJ, Maria, Carlos and Frida. Still I imagine Rosa would be a jerk to Rodney because of her pettines about food and Hector would be nice to Rodney, but also he would like him to buy something. Hector is a nice man, but without his greed, he wouldn't be a good shop owner.

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    • Then again, they met him in a fanfic I permanently removed which was that Valentines Day story, The reason I completely disowned that one is because I'm not a Ronnincoln shipper. In fact, I co-wrote that fanfic with Yoshi last year where he goes on that triple date with Girl Jordan. Also, since I do my best to follow with a show's continuity in my fanfics it would make sense for him to probably not know Bobby and Ronnie Anne yet, but he could have met them offscreen.

      I get the feeling Rosa would only get mad at him if he didn't like her food, or if he brought outside food into their apartment. Otherwise, she would just be glad he's a very good natured boy.  One thing I'm conflicted on is if he goes to visit them should he come alone, or should Leni, Lori, and Lincoln accompany him? What do you think?

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    • I don't support Ronniecoln as well.

      Then someone needs to tell Rosa to not hold petty grudge and to get know Rodney better. Leni is the most popular sister of the show, so she and Rodney visiting them would be a good move. Reason Leni goes there would be discussing a fashion staff with Carlota. Rodney accompanies her. Since podcast episode focused on Lana, Leni has driving license.

      If you plan to focus on Rodney's part, then Leni would be a plot device giving him a reason to go to Casgrandes. Lori and Lincoln were there, but I don't have idea for coming there again.

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    • I'm sure you remember that Rodney's last name is Moore. I'm also sure you remember that Mrs. Moore (his mother) works a lot, and isn't always able to be home. I also had this one thought where he brings his pet tortoise Ben since his mom probably wont be home enough to feed him, but Muppet told me he could just have Lana take care of Ben since driving a tortoise to an apartment building in the city wouldn't be good idea. Do you agree with that?

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    • I remember Rodney has single mom, who works a lot to keep him and herself alive and well. I agree that big city would be unhealthy for tortoise, he wouldn't endure noises caused by cars, trains and neighbours. Lana would take care of Ben by coming Moore house.

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    • Saying that reminded me of a planned fanfic I had where Rodney and his mother had to go out of town for a week, and he had Lincoln look after Ben. Since Ben is completely used to quite since he lives in a house with hardly anyone in it most of the time besides him and Rodney it's too much for him with the loudness of the Loud House. He ends up withdrawn in his shell most of the time unless Lincoln has to feed him.Not sure why I never wrote that one. It was called Turtle Sitters. 

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    • Turtle Sitters would be a short fic. Lincoln would ask Lana for tips about Ben, if he bahaves strange or call Sid Chang, because Ronnie's friend is a daugther of zoologist mother.

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    • The concept really doesn't have much substance when you really think about it. It looks like I was better off just abandoning that idea.

      Going back to thinking Rodney might not be good enough for Leni can you imagine Leni's friends thinking that when Leni first introduces him to them? Some told me they think Jackie, Mandee, Miguel, and Fiona wouldn't dislike Rodney, they would just probably not think much of him when they first meet, but would warm up to him eventually. Do you imagine it going like that?

      This goes back to the food thing, but while Rodney, Leni, and possibly Lori and Lincoln are visiting the Casagrandes would you imagine Rosa getting furious if one morning Rodney cooks breakfast for everyone before she gets up? It's obvious he was doing it as a kind gesture for his hosts, but Rose would probably not be too happy that she didn't cook.

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    • I can imagine those friends being like that to Rodney. They realize he tries his best, they evetually help him. Miguel changes his appearance, Fiona gives him tips about clothes. I don't know Jackie and Mandee as good as M and F to imagine what they would do. Leni would see him overworking himself to have money to change his appearance, she asks why, he answers he wants to be better, she says he doesn't need to get better.

      Rosa would be very furious, she'd feel like Rodney is stealing her job. Also she's a control freak about cooking, she thinks only her food is good.

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    • I never would have really thought about all of that. I would just imagine that Rodney would just win them over them eventually, and when they see how much Leni loves him they start to see the value in him. I imagine that maybe one of them would be okay with him from the beginning since that would be a bit more realistic if at least one of them sees the good in him from the start. usually I imgaine Jackie being the one who's okay with him while Mandee, Miguel and Fiona are iffy with him when they first meet him. I'm still not certain how he wins them over, but it would happen eventually. In the case of Rosa if Rodney brings some of his cookies to give to the Casagrandes do you think she's be the only one who doesn't eat them?

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    • Then sorry for misinterpreting. Jackie and Mandee have so similar personalities that I don't know what's difference between them. Maybe Rodney would win them over, if he shows by his actions that he's determined.

      Rosa would try those cookies first, then she says if she likes them or not. She's not that zealous.

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    • Even though I really liked Leni's friends in Everybody Loves Leni it is true that some of them seem to have interchangeable personalities even if they are amusing to watch. 

      The reason I brought up cookies is because if you remember Rodney's family has their own cookie recipe. Not usr eif you remember that story Evening Antics where he first comes over to meet the majority of the Loud family, and he brought over his family cookies. In that story it was the first time he made them without his mother's help. I also still never made a story where the Loud family meets Mrs. Moore.

      I don't think I ever told you this, but Rodney's family is REALLY small. Not just because he's an only child, but because his mother was an only child, and so was his father. Which means he has no aunts, uncles, or cousins. Not sure how you feel about that, but I'm sure you'd agree any kid with a small family like that could have a rather lonely existence if they don't have many friends.

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    • In everybody loves Leni I was surprised Becky wasn't among them.

      Sorry, I forgot Evening Antics.

      You didn't tell me this. Most of my family is dead, those who live are far away, so I know how loneliness makes depressed and feel empty.

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    • I was more surprised people started associating Becky as one of Leni's friends since originally she was Lori's friend.

      I'm sure you remember that my fanfics (or at least a good chunk of them) were put back on the wiki, but I'm guessing you probably haven't re-read some of them. I saw that you can't leave comments on them anymore. Have you re-read any of my fanfics after they were put back? If so do you think what I've written holds up?

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    • It started since episode Friendzy, where Leni invited Becky. Also They had picnic in episode Scale of Justice.

      I remember you restored them. I think they aged well and are still good.

      Faith and Fishes is one of my favorites, because of bonding between Lana and Lincoln, he invited her to aquarium to make up for his fiasco in the Loudest Yard, I imagined them watching penguins, dophins, octopusi, Lincoln saving Lana from sharks and playing plush sea turtles.

      Pink Knight is heartwarming, because Lincoln hangs out with Lola and she stands against Chandler, when he taunts Lincoln. This was a good way to show that Lola has a heart. This is even more believable, after S3 improved her.

      Nurse Leni is a cute fanfic, where Leni looks after Lincoln after he sprained his ancle and they watched Pixar films and played video games. I just noticed that in this fanfic is a mistake "it;s just a sprain" should be "it's just a sprain".

      Depth of Darkness is also a nice story about Leni and the twins getting scared after watching a film about extinct sea monsters.

      I like Metal Melee, because I used to watch a show about duels of homemade robots. This situation was a good idea for interactions between Lincoln and Lisa. Rodney also returned. Chandler isn't as big jerk as in fanfics, but I never liked him, so I don't mind demonizing him.

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    • I had a feeling you would say that. I personally think that some of my fanfics do not hold up, and that is why I didn't bring some of them back. A Low Note is one I'll never bring back because I never want to be associated with the outdated Luna is Lincoln's best sister trope. I am glad that trope is dead, and it should stay dead. I know you didn't mention all of my fanfics, but if you ever did have criticisms regarding the stories, writing style, etc, what would you say needed improvement in any areas?

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    • I remember A Low Note, you wrote it, because then Luna lost her reputation of a nice sister to Lincoln. However trope of nice sisters became ridiculous. This trope is dead, but somehow fandom likes to talk about it, when many wish to forget it.

      I mentioned the ones I remember the most. So far I don't have any criticism, I enjoy them.

      I rarely write fanfics now, because I have writer's block. When I had some story ideas in head, but they were short, I made comics about them. Like this one https://www.deviantart.com/firstdrellspectre/art/Lincoln-and-Lynn-in-Middle-School-763585866

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    • It's a good thing I never really used that trope, or at least not to a distracting level. I did at times make Leni and Luna Lincoln's most supportive sisters, and I am not proud of when I did that. If I could do it again I would still keep Leni in those stories, but switch it up with other sisters. In recent times I've been favoring Lola as a sister to use as one who can be close to Lincoln since I can see good potential there. I think I may have also been the first fanfic writer to make a story that showcases Lola in a good light, and doesn't make her a one note character. I also never demonized the sisters who used to be associated as the meaner sisters (I hate that trope), and while I did sometimes have sisters like Lynn in an antagonistic role I would have it where she redeems herself in the end. In one story she doesn't even antagonize Lincoln. It's Lola she antagonizes.

      I also think that in some cases the best things I ever contributed were stories with original ideas that weren't from the show. Such as my OCs like Rodney and the Rolan Circus. The Rolan Circus is something a lot of people remember from my stories. Looking back however, the reasoning for Lincoln running away was presented in a rather week way, and it seems like Big Top Lincoln was nothing more than an excuse to introduce these circus characters I had created. Whether or not you consider that a good thing I guess is up to the reader. Some have told me they weren't fond of the Lincoln running away aspect, but said they loved the Rolan Circus, and the strong friendships Lincoln develops with them to where he becomes an honorary member of their circus family. 

      Personally, I think Rodney was my best original creation for my fanfics. I don't know if I ever told you in particular, but I imagine Billy West for Rodney's voice, and of course we know he's a Futurama cast member who voices Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Dr. Zoidberg, and more. I imagined Katey Sagal for Mrs. Moore's voice actress who we both know is Leela. Everyone said they thought I had great choices for their voices. If they actually were characters on the show, and that's who they got to be their voices that would be awesome. 


      If I do write anymore fanfics I'll only write them if I consider the story good enough. I would like to write something with Mrs. Moore meeting the Loud family, Rodney meeting the Casagrandes as well as meeting Leni's friends, and I don't know what else.

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    • I remember fanfic "Beach Blanket Lincoln", where Luna and Leni were looking after Lincoln during a school trip on beach. You may not be proud of it, but at least you gained experience in writing, that's still a part of progress.

      I know you like Lola, Pink Knight is your best fanfic about her, at least I remember it that way. In your fanfic she's good from the start and the best evidence is, when she stands against Chandler mocking Lincoln. In my fanfic Frigid Fever she's a big brat, who slowly realizes her mistake. Then I disliked Lola, but I couldn't left her as a bad character, so I used her subplot as redemption story.

      You wrote Pink Knight on 24 September 2016 and I wrote Frigid Fever on 11 August 2016.

      You put lot of effort in writing Big Top Lincoln and all characters of Nolans. I agree that Rodney Moore is your best OC. No, you didn't tell me that you imagine him with voice of Billy West.

      If you remember my fanfics, then maybe you can give me tips, what should I change in my style, because when I'll have time for writing, then I shall know what's wrong.

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    • I never said I wasn't proud of Beach Blanket Lincoln. It's mostly A Low Note I am not proud of. Beach Blanket Lincoln is fine, but I debate if I had the chance to do it over again if I would include Lori as a chaperone. I didn't not include her because of liking Leni and Luna as better older sisters, but because I didn't want to do Clyde doing any of his creepy crush stuff while on the class trip.  In terms of your fanfics I think the one thing to fix would be the way you portrayed certain sisters. I know you used Luna in the sort of guardian sister role at times, and there were times where sisters like Lola were portrayed in too much of a harsh manner. There were also some instances where some stories you made felt like they were a bit too dark for the show if I remember correctly, but I don't remember which ones were like that.

      After a while I tried not to make anymore OCs since I didn't want to make too many since I wanted to focus more on the actual show characters. Rodney, Mrs. Moore, and the Rolan Circus were the only OCs I decided to keep after a while not counting one time characters I created for a story just because I needed a random background person I made up for a certain scene. Also, I don't know what you think, but many said they liked my idea of Billy West being Rodney's voice. There was one thought I had at one point where I was worried about how Billy West is much older than Leni's voice actress, but people told me that it's only voices in a cartoon so it wouldn't be creepy. Going back to Rodney meeting the Casagrande family one thought I had was a story to replace that Valentines Day story I deleted because of not being a Ronnincoln shipper. It's where Leni, Lori, and Rodney go to the city so that Bobbly can join them, and they go on a double date to a Valentines celebration in the city. For Lincoln I debate on whether he comes along but doesn't get involved with the date, or have him be in a subplot where he and Lana look after Ben. Any thoughts?

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    • It's understandable that you didn't want Clyde's creepy crush. In S4 Clyde is officially no longer in lust on Lori. So now her being a chaperone would be safe.

      I know I also am guilty of using meaner and nicer sisters trope. Then I thought guardian sibling is cute, now like most people I think it's unrealistic. To fix my birth fanfics I changed word "guardian" for "companion". I know I used too dark topics, especially for Halloween stories. I no longer use this.

      Indeed, too many new characters distract too much from main characters. Billy West as Rodney Moore is a nice choice, because I still remember Philip J. Fry.

      I think your story has a good concept. Do you plan to use to 2 storylines, one chapter about Leni and Lori with Rodney and Bobby, then another chapter about Lana and Lincoln looking after Ben? Story with Ben sounds short, so it's not a bad idea to include this as subplot.

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    • If I write that story I probably will make it where there's a subplot with Lincoln and Lana looking after Ben while Rodney is away in the city for however long they're over there. In addition to the Valentines Day celebration in the city Rodney's first meeting of the Casagrande would also be something that happens in the story. I'm just wondering how to make Rodney's initial interactions with the family since I imagine they receive him well for the most part, but there could be some small conflict for whatever reason. Going back to Rodney bringing his family cookies to share with his hosts I wonder if Rosa would get upset if the rest of the family loves the cookies while she pretends to not like them due to pride, but maybe she actually does like them. Do you think the subplot with Lincoln and Lana should only be used sparingly, and not have half the story cut back to it?

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    • Subplot of Lana and Lincoln looking after Ben seems to be best used sparingly like on start and return to finish. Lana and Lincoln have their short story in 2nd or third chapter, then after the main story in the end we return to Lana and Lincoln's story.

      After a while Rosa's jealousy and pride should be called out by her family. Carlota would comment Rodney's look, but that's innocently insensitive, because she doesn't know Rodney's family situation. Carlino would look down on Rodney, because the kid has simply big ego. Frida would try to make Rodney his model for her paintings.

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    • In the Ben subplot I would assume we might have some instances of Ben not handling the loudness of the Loud House very well due to him being used to mostly silence. Do you think there should be one instance where Rodney calls Lincoln to see how Ben is doing?

      On the opposite side I only just recently saw the whole thing of Frida painting other people. I don't remember that from Relative Chaos. I only remember her taking pictures of everyone. With Carlota it sounds like you're implying she would consider his attire to be too average, and that he should have something better. I would imagine Leni would be the one to tell her she loves Rodney the way he is in terms of his attire. Asside from what we mentioned can you see any other small conflicts Rodney might have when first meeting the Casagrande family?

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    • Rodney likes Ben, he treats him like family member, so it's understandable to call Lincoln to ask about Ben's well-being.

      Frida didn't paint in Relative Chaos, but she does in The Casagrandes episodes. That's how I see Carlota, because she was like this in Relative Chaos. Rodney wouldn't stand Sergio, because the parrot is most obnoxious member of Casagrandes, being with him would make Rodney miss Ben. Carlitos mimics people he likes, so I imagine Rosa taking Carlitos away, when he mimics Rodney. Hector, Carlos, Maria, Frida and CJ would have no conflict with Rodney.

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    • I was about to get to Sergio since I get the feeling Rodney would get annoyed with him. I imagine Lalo would be friendly to him. Do you imagine Ronnie Anne not necessarily being mean, but calling Rodney things like geek just to joke with him? You think Rosa wouldn't like Carlitos mimicking Rodney?

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    • Lalo is an antithesis of Sergio. I actually can imagine nice Ronnie. In her spin off Ronnie is much nicer than in the parent show, her new friend Sid is a geek into robotics and animals. Yes, Rosa would be jealous to that point. This would be her last straw. Also when Rosa is angry about Carlitos mimicking Rodney and taking him from "bad influence", then her family starts calling Rosa out for her behavior.

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    • Knowing CJ I imagine he and Rodney could bond over some things, and Rodney would be happy to play along with CJ's games. Speaking of games he could also play video games with Ronnie Anne at one point. When Carlino talks down to Rodney who do you think should be the one to tell him to be nice to their guest?

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    • I thought CJ is more into cosplays than video games. When Carlino misbehaves, then his parents should scold him, that's their job as parents.

      I forgot to mention earlier that my fanfic Lucy's birth had dark prologue, only because Lucy born prematurely was the only logical reason for paleness I found.

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    • I meant the video games being about Ronnie Anne, not CJ. I know CJ is more playing pretend with cosplay. There is something that came to mind, but I think it's too mean spirited. It's where Carlino says something condescending towards Rodney that reminds him of his deceased father. I'm sure you'd agree that's too much, right?

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    • Isee. It would be very mean-spirited. Carlino is a rude kid, but not that big jerk. Children at his age can use too honest words or speak brutal honesty, but it's only because they are young and don't know that some truths can hurt people.

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    • Which is why I feel awkward that this idea even came to my mind at all. I don't like that kind of stuff, yet mean spirited ideas have come to my mind on a number of occasions. Due to what you've said would be Rodney's initial interactions with the Casagrande family when do you think he would explain his backstory to them about his deceased father, and how his mother has to work long hours just to provide for both of them which causes her to not be able much time with her son?

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    • I get you feel awkward. This happens to me as well. I try to feel better by using this as something I should avoid to distinguish right from wrong.

      I think after too many misinterpretings of his actions, Rodney would finally do this.

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    • I agree with that. I'm sure you know how some say that not every idea should be made into something.

      I'm assuming that when Rodney, Leni, and Lori first come over Rodney would tell them a bit about himself when he first introduces himself, but I guess the more tragic stuff wouldn't be mentioned until a bit later. Though, do you think him mentioning that he doesn't have a father when he first tells them about himself when they are first talking to be weird if they would ask him to tell them about himself?

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    • In real life nobody mentions deceased parents during first meeting. There are good reasons this is a personal matter. I know this from my own experience.

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    • Good point there. Heavy topics like that are better to tell someone once they get to know you better since that's very personal. So, you said you think Rodney's more tragic backstory should be brought up as they get to know him better, and to be something that helps them to stop seeing him in a negative way?

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    • Exactly.

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    • Also, I'm sure you know that many reptiles including turtles have long live spans. When it comes to Ben how long do you think Rodney should have